Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

Aron Ra on Gods, Demons, and the Meaning of Life

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller on Saturday. 2 Replies

This isn't quite a rant, but it's more than just a talk or a speech.  What follows here is the end of something Aron Ra delivered several years ago which has stuck with me practically since I first…Continue

Tags: soul, bible, skeptic, devil, god

Truth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Feb 11. 14 Replies

"APHORISM XXV. He who begins by loving Christianity better than Truth, will proceed by loving his own sect or Church better than Christianity, and end loving himself better than all."~…Continue

Tags: Truth

Ideas

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14, 2018. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 10, 2018. 5 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

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Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2018 at 3:52pm

Loren, I agree, the bible exists as fiction because it cannot correct itself or be corrected by new information. It survives as a poor and faulty histoy as well. 

Comment by Loren Miller on September 19, 2018 at 5:57am

The more you love, the more you can love -- and the more intensely you love.  Nor is there any limit on how many you can love.  If a person had time enough, he could love all of that majority who are decent and just.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

The longer I've been on this planet, the more I've come to appreciate the truth of the above statement. Sure, it flies in the face of the model of monogamy which many societies insist on as "normal." Many of the concepts Heinlein put forward in his novels run counter to convention.

That doesn't make them wrong.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 18, 2018 at 10:27pm

Indeed, Bertold.  The question becomes: how close is the model to what is modeled, and can the model be improved upon, to better reflect what it is meant to represent?  The problem is that a book cannot do that if the book cannot admit itself to change, editing, or updating.

The bible admits of no flaw in itself, though it is rife with such flaws, and its representatives will not concede to the existence of those errant passages.  I submit that such disqualifies it from any claim to reference, never mind authority.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 18, 2018 at 6:38pm

It isn't just a circle of life, it's a circle of matter.  Until we can import things from off-planet, this planet is materially a mostly closed system, and we had better learn that in a hurry.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 18, 2018 at 3:08pm

"Everybody lives downstream from something or someone."

~ Larry Montgomery, Spokane, WA. artist 

 

Comment by Loren Miller on September 18, 2018 at 11:25am

Precisely, Spud.  All the hand-waving and referring to the bible and talking about subjective experiences amounts to ZILCH.  If you don't have the goods and can drag them out and SHOW them to us, all that amounts to is a waste of our time.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 18, 2018 at 11:16am

If you don’t have evidence, there’s literally nothing to talk about.

--Aron Ra

Comment by Loren Miller on September 18, 2018 at 5:53am

The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible.
-- Albert Einstein

Not sure I agree with Albert here. If the world can give rise to stars and planets and birds and lizards and mosquitoes and us and does so consistently, then it must be ordered and predictable. Being ordered and predictable, it should also be understandable. If reality ran purely on magic which had no order, it would be a different matter.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 17, 2018 at 5:59am

I distrust those who know so well what God wants because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
-- Susan B. Anthony

Even as people choose news sources which agree with their own biases these days, so they also choose a religion which aligns with their own bigotries.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 16, 2018 at 7:54am

Objectivism advocates reason as man’s sole means of knowledge, and therefore, for the reasons I have already given, it is atheist. It denies any supernatural dimension presented as a contradiction of nature, of existence. This applies not only to God, but also to every variant of the supernatural ever advocated or to be advocated. In other words, we accept reality, and that’s all.
― Leonard Peikoff

Or as Aron Ra more succinctly put it: "If you can't show it, you don't know it!"

 

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