Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Truth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Feb 11. 14 Replies

"APHORISM XXV. He who begins by loving Christianity better than Truth, will proceed by loving his own sect or Church better than Christianity, and end loving himself better than all."~…Continue

Tags: Truth

Ideas

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14, 2018. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 10, 2018. 5 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Will McAvoy's Rant: "America Is NOT the World's Greatest Country"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 25, 2018. 3 Replies

Aaron Sorkin has a habit of swinging for the fences when he writes political commentary as entertainment for television.  This was first evinced in the network television series, The West Wing, and…Continue

Tags: The Newsroom, Will McAvoy, Aaron Sorkin

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 18, 2019 at 11:39am

Christianity and capitalism are both probably right to detest a plant like cannabis. Both faiths bid us to set our sights on the future; both reject the pleasures of the moment and the senses in favor of the expectation of a fulfillment yet to come—whether by earning salvation or by getting and spending. More even than most plant drugs, cannabis, by immersing us in the present and offering something like fulfillment  here and now, short-circuits the metaphysics of desire on which Christianity and capitalism (and so much else in our civilization) depend.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 18, 2019 at 7:02am

You are better than your god. You are better than your religion. So am I, so is damn near everybody on the planet. I wish you people would wake up and see this. Stop apologizing for this! [holds up The Bible] It's not the Good Book, there's nothing good about it. All it does is poison minds. All it does is make you sacrifice your humanity — the only thing that you have that is of any value — in order to sit around in deference to your gods.
-- Matt Dillahunty

No one really ever throws it down with quite so much verve and attitude as Matt Dillahunty does, particularly on The Atheist Experience, when callers attempt to defend their rat-bag god and his antediluvian morals. He is an honest pleasure to watch.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 17, 2019 at 9:02am

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called a Religion.
-- Robert M. Pirsig

This to me is the true horror of religion: it allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions what only lunatics could believe on their own.
-- Sam Harris

Self-explanatory.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 16, 2019 at 12:42pm

Loren - there's a church like that in Portugal too, at Fatima. I've seen the little old ladies swarming down the crawlway.

Comment by Patricia on February 16, 2019 at 12:33pm

Humiliatingly disgusting.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 16, 2019 at 7:37am

If the ignorance of nature gave birth to such a variety of gods, the knowledge of this nature is calculated to destroy them.
― Paul Henri Thiry d'Holbach

And that is happening, though nowhere near fast enough to suit me!

Comment by Loren Miller on February 16, 2019 at 7:32am

Joan, there is a church, I believe in Spain, with a considerable space in front of the entrance.  The locals get down on their knees at the beginning of that expanse and CRAWL on their knees, praying all the time for deliverance of their sins, all the way to the doors of the church itself.  I've been there; I've seen it.

If what you experienced is child abuse (and it is!), then those Spanish parishioners are involved in an orgy of superimposed guilt and sin.  I can think of few things more despicable.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 16, 2019 at 3:03am

Grinning Cat, when I was a wee little girl, I was often taken to a little white church with a pointed belltower where people kneeled in the pews, imploring god to forgive them their sins. They cried, and wailed, tears running from their eyes, shouts of shame and guilt begging for forgiveness. Why all this fuss, I wondered, when Jesus took our sins away. To illustrate the point, there was a statue of a man hanging from a cross, sweat and blood running down his face from a crown of thorns. The whole situation scared the holy shit out of me. Exposure to that kind of behavior is child abuse. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on February 15, 2019 at 10:20pm

Calling funny or thought-provoking captioned pictures "memes", as if that's all that memes are, is a disservice to the actual broad and useful concept.

--me

And not from me, but from Merriam-Webster, with a Dawkins quote:

meme 1 : an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture

Memes (discrete units of knowledge, gossip, jokes and so on) are to culture what genes are to life. Just as biological evolution is driven by the survival of the fittest genes in the gene pool, cultural evolution may be driven by the most successful memes.— Richard Dawkins

(The second sense deals with internet memes.)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 15, 2019 at 8:16pm

A meme is simply a unit of memorable cultural information. It can be as small as a tune or a metaphor, as big as a philosophy or religious concept. Hell is a meme; so are the Pythagorean theorem, harmony, “Where’s the beef?,? and of course the notion of the meme itself.

~Michael Pollan

 

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