Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

"We need a much broader conversation on what morality of pro-life is"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Apr 28. 3 Replies

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a…Continue

Tags: Planned, Parenthood, contraception, Pro-life,, O.S.B.

Aron Ra on Gods, Demons, and the Meaning of Life

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 20. 2 Replies

This isn't quite a rant, but it's more than just a talk or a speech.  What follows here is the end of something Aron Ra delivered several years ago which has stuck with me practically since I first…Continue

Tags: soul, bible, skeptic, devil, god

Truth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Feb 11. 14 Replies

"APHORISM XXV. He who begins by loving Christianity better than Truth, will proceed by loving his own sect or Church better than Christianity, and end loving himself better than all."~…Continue

Tags: Truth

Ideas

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14, 2018. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

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Comment by Plinius on April 22, 2019 at 7:19am

Thanks Loren!

Comment by Loren Miller on April 22, 2019 at 6:45am

Not at all, Chris.  I was simply quoting you in referring to your comment.  If there is a particular American idiom which would fit here, it doesn't come to mind at the moment.

Comment by Plinius on April 22, 2019 at 6:34am

do the "   " mean that I didn't use the correct expression, Loren?

Comment by Loren Miller on April 22, 2019 at 5:54am

It is, indeed, a "loser's bid," Chris, supported and used by losers who want to equate their BS with something that actually teaches us about reality and how it works.  Religion is an insult to human potential.

Comment by Plinius on April 22, 2019 at 5:51am

that's a loser's bid, to reconcile religion with science

Comment by Loren Miller on April 22, 2019 at 5:48am

One increasingly hears rumors of a reconciliation between science and religion. In major news magazines as well as at academic conferences, the claim is made that that belief in the success of science in describing the workings of the world is no longer thought to be in conflict with faith in God. I would like to argue against this trend, in favor of a more old-fashioned point of view that is still more characteristic of most scientists, who tend to disbelieve in any religious component to the workings of the universe.
-- Sean Carroll

I'm totally with Carroll on this one. Science and faith have NO intersection set that I can discern, because one depends on evidence and rational, analytical thought, and the other not only uses neither but frequently is critical of both.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 21, 2019 at 6:01am

All I can tell you is that you've got to play the cards life deals you. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but at least you're in the game.
-- Vic Fontaine, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, "It's Only a Paper Moon"

Yet more wisdom from the universe of Starfleet and the 24th century. We ARE "in the game," and because we are, we can actually DO something in it. It reminds me more than a little of something that was said back in the 21st century by a friend of ours:

We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born.
-- Richard Dawkins, Unweaving the Rainbow

Comment by Patricia on April 20, 2019 at 12:55pm

Comment by Loren Miller on April 20, 2019 at 6:10am

... but they will stand up and they will ask, "If there is no god, what stops you from raping and killing everyone you want to rape and kill? What stops you from doing that?" And my answer is always, "You're absolutely right. I have raped and killed every single person I want to rape and kill, and that number is ZERO, you evil motherfucker!!! It's ZERO; it's a goose egg!!! And if your number is a positive integer, sign up for prison! Get the fuck out of our society, because morality is more important than god, and we know that because you stupid motherfuckers say the sentence, 'god is good.' And if morality is not more important than god, you don't get to say that. It doesn't mean anything, unless there is some good that we believe in, some morality, then you can't say, 'god is good,' then you just say, 'god ... whatever he does is okay,' and according to the bible, he kind of is; he does everything bad.
-- Penn Jillette

This is the kind of blunt, unapologetic statement I would expect out of someone like George Carlin, for its unvarnished contempt for the believers' assertion that their deity can do no wrong when, from the point of view of human morality, he's the biggest fuck-up of them all.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 19, 2019 at 7:38pm

 

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