Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

"We need a much broader conversation on what morality of pro-life is"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Apr 28. 3 Replies

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a…Continue

Tags: Planned, Parenthood, contraception, Pro-life,, O.S.B.

Aron Ra on Gods, Demons, and the Meaning of Life

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 20. 2 Replies

This isn't quite a rant, but it's more than just a talk or a speech.  What follows here is the end of something Aron Ra delivered several years ago which has stuck with me practically since I first…Continue

Tags: soul, bible, skeptic, devil, god

Truth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Feb 11. 14 Replies

"APHORISM XXV. He who begins by loving Christianity better than Truth, will proceed by loving his own sect or Church better than Christianity, and end loving himself better than all."~…Continue

Tags: Truth

Ideas

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14, 2018. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2019 at 7:17pm

Patricia, thanks for the word, "marvel!" Yes, it fits in nicely. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2019 at 7:16pm

I agree, Loren. Language changes rapidly, even as we do not realize it. I am certain he did not believe in superstitions and I cannot cite how I believe that. I've read all his material, publicly published and some from newsletters to which I belong. 

I am happy that you caught the detail about the word "spirit" and its derivatives. You offered some excellent suggestions that I used. 

Thanks again, dear friend; I can count on you to hold me accountable for what I write. 

Comment by Patricia on April 23, 2019 at 6:38pm

Marvel could fit here.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 23, 2019 at 6:27pm

Joan, Sagan said what he said, and it's possible that he said it to maintain some semblance of contact with his believing audience, back when he made the original Cosmos.  It's worth keeping in mind, he did that LONG before 9/11 and long before the current outbreak of atheists and atheism.  It was a different environment back then, and that's what he was playing to, I suspect.

My problem with it is that, in the current day, his statements wind up being somewhat anachronistic.  I still admire him for being the brilliant science communicator that he was.  As an atheist (if he was indeed one), he's been surpassed.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2019 at 5:51pm

Try this on to for size, it is Carl Sagan s/spirituality. 

“Science is not only compatible with a sense of wonder; it is a profound source of wonderment. When we recognize our place in an immensity of light‐years and in the passage of ages, when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling, that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely a sense of happiness. So are our emotions in the presence of great art or music or literature, or acts of exemplary selfless courage such as those of Mohandas Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr. The notion that science and wonder are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.”
Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

How would you reword it to take away the baggage that "spiritual" conveys? 

Comment by Patricia on April 23, 2019 at 12:31pm

Don't like the ''spiritual'' terms either.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 23, 2019 at 5:46am

Why should I have to hide the fact that I don't believe there’s a supreme being? There’s no proof of it. There’s no harm in saying you’re an atheist. It doesn't mean you treat people any differently. I live by the Golden Rule to do unto others, as you'd want to be treated.
-- Jesse ("The Body") Ventura

Jesse's got it on the nose, though being an atheist in Minnesota (his home state) is a bit easier than being one in Mississippi!

Comment by Loren Miller on April 23, 2019 at 5:42am

My problem with the word, "spirituality" remains, and I'm disappointed in Sagan that he used it at all.  "Awe" and "wonder" are one thing and I would hope that is what he refers to.  The problem remains both the vagary of the term and its and others' usurpation by religion.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2019 at 12:47am

“Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality. When we recognize our place in an immensity of light‐years and in the passage of ages, when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling, that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual. So are our emotions in the presence of great art or music or literature, or acts of exemplary selfless courage such as those of Mohandas Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr. The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.”
Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

Comment by Patricia on April 22, 2019 at 2:30pm

Exactly. I don't want to ''have faith'', I want to know!

 

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