Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

"We need a much broader conversation on what morality of pro-life is"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Apr 28. 3 Replies

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a…Continue

Tags: Planned, Parenthood, contraception, Pro-life,, O.S.B.

Aron Ra on Gods, Demons, and the Meaning of Life

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 20. 2 Replies

This isn't quite a rant, but it's more than just a talk or a speech.  What follows here is the end of something Aron Ra delivered several years ago which has stuck with me practically since I first…Continue

Tags: soul, bible, skeptic, devil, god

Truth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Feb 11. 14 Replies

"APHORISM XXV. He who begins by loving Christianity better than Truth, will proceed by loving his own sect or Church better than Christianity, and end loving himself better than all."~…Continue

Tags: Truth

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Comment by Patricia on May 28, 2019 at 12:25pm

After 72 years of breathing, I've not seen any evidence that such a thing exists. All I do see is a lot of hypocrites making claims. 

Comment by Loren Miller on May 28, 2019 at 5:26am

The search for god can only result in the discovery of something you've put there yourself.
-- me

I'll stipulate that the above is true so long as there are no gods ... but then, when's the last time a god was demonstrated to exist beyond any doubt?

Comment by Patricia on May 27, 2019 at 12:27pm

My hackles always went up with the ''my way or the highway'' thing. As a kid, I never knew why, they just did.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 27, 2019 at 8:11am

Recall that heretic derives from the Greek hairetikos, meaning able to choose [emphasis mine].
-- Lawrence Sutin

The above was submitted back in April of 2018 by our buddy, Bertold, whose contributions are no longer with us, but which I was able to find by way of a Google search. I see that quote as enormously important, because the most fundamental of religious beliefs don't want to offer us a choice, other perhaps than Hobson's choice. It's their way or the highway, salvation or hell. Personally, I'll have the lasagna.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 26, 2019 at 7:38am

It seems to me there is less meanness in atheism, by a good measure. It seems that the spirit of religious self-righteousness this article deplores is precisely the spirit in which it is written. Of course he's right about many things, one of them being the destructive potency of religious self-righteousness.
― Marilynne Robinson

Sadly, atheism has, more recently, shown its own meanness here and there, but by and large, I have to agree with Marilynne in that meanness in religion is built-in, made a part of the warp and woof of its holy books, whereas in atheism its more a matter of disagreement between factions. This is why atheism may eventually conquer its meanness, whereas it will be almost impossible for religion to dispatch its own.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 25, 2019 at 6:53am

I can live with doubt and uncertainty and not knowing. I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers that might be wrong.
-- Richard Feynman

The one experience that I hope every student has at some point in their lives is to have some belief you profoundly, deeply hold, proved to be wrong because that is the most eye-opening experience you can have, and as a scientist, to me, is the most exciting experience I can ever have.
-- Lawrence M. Krauss

Two brilliant physicists, both of them at home with the uncertainty of the relative world and at ease with being proven wrong. Contrast that with the average megachurch preacher!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2019 at 8:39pm

Science, that very special way of thinking, using skepticism as a tool, looking constantly for evidence, not allowing religion, politics, attitudes, beliefs, customs, and traditions to get in the way of finding possibilities, probabilities, and preferabilities when choosing values. 

~ me

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 24, 2019 at 5:19pm

Science is like searching in a dark cellar for a black cat using a flashlight.

Experimental science is like searching in a dark cellar for a black cat using a laser pointer (and a face mask!).

Comment by Loren Miller on May 24, 2019 at 6:01am

And while searching in that dark cellar, theologians may find anything and CLAIM it is that black cat.  Perhaps that is one reason why there are over 30,000 different Christian Protestant denominations currently extant!

Comment by Loren Miller on May 23, 2019 at 5:29am

It’s the strangest thing about this church - it is obsessed with sex, absolutely obsessed. Now, they will say we, with our permissive society and rude jokes, are obsessed. No. We have a healthy attitude. We like it, it’s fun, it’s jolly; because it’s a primary impulse it can be dangerous and dark and difficult. It’s a bit like food in that respect, only even more exciting. The only people who are obsessed with food are anorexics and the morbidly obese, and that in erotic terms is the Catholic Church in a nutshell.
-- Stephen Fry, on the Catholic Church and sex

Of all the observant and powerful comments regarding the Catholic Church and its failure to be a positive influence Stephen Fry made during the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate: "Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world," none were more succinct or on point than the above-cited quote. Perhaps the saddest part in all of this is in the 10 years since Fry said those words, very little has changed with that intractable organization.

 

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