Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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"Mr. President ... I Don't Work For You"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 31. 13 Replies

There has been a major shot across President Donald Trump's bow and it came, believe it or not, from Fox News.  Specifically, it came from Fox reporter and commentator Neil Cavuto, in response to a…Continue

Tags: Neil Cavuto, Fox News, Donald Trump

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 1. 1 Reply

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

"We need a much broader conversation on what morality of pro-life is"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Apr 28. 3 Replies

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a…Continue

Tags: Planned, Parenthood, contraception, Pro-life,, O.S.B.

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Comment by Loren Miller on September 2, 2019 at 3:48pm

Ruth, I still think the US is the place to be.  The problem is that a certain segment of the population and their reaction to the presence of a clueless nitwit who is currently serving as president.  I will stipulate that getting rid of the nitwit won't solve the problem, but it's a first step among many on the way to a solution.

In a lot of ways, the US is still right and should be kept right.  In those area where it isn't, as Schurz said, we need to SET IT RIGHT.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on September 2, 2019 at 3:36pm

Loren, I'm increasingly ashamed of "my country" and long for a new world order capable of holding global corporations to account and coordinating planet-wide sustainability policies. So, maybe I'm not patriotic in Carl Schurz's sense. Nation states seem increasingly obsolete in the face of technological change and climate destabilization.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 2, 2019 at 7:40am

My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.
-- Carl Schurz

The above was mentioned during an op-ed on CBS Sunday Morning and gives a far better expression to the true nature of patriotism than what I see lately in the GOP and the White House. Then again, they are less interested in patriotism than they are in totalitarianism.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 2, 2019 at 7:38am

The bible, put bluntly, is a 10-point cluster-fuck, a hodge-podge of different authors, throwing their $0.02 worth, with damned poor (if any) editing and worse continuity.  What made it work was its religion's endorsement by Constantine and its self-arrogated authority among the poorly educated masses, an authority which is slowly but surely breaking down ... and thank the FSM for that!

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 2, 2019 at 12:24am

I read the Bible, front to back, and have not read  Greek philosophy. Encouraged and supported in learning the Old and New Testament, I had nothing with which to compare its messages. Greek philosophy does not appeal to me for casual reading or even for comparative analyses. I leave these cognitive exercises for others to explore. 

If you say, Grinning Cat, "There is overwhelming biblical witness in the Old Testament to God’s lack of perfection in the Greek sense: he has regrets from time to time; he clearly does not know the minds of his people; he craves reassurance; he rages and performs rash acts; he breaks promises. He is, in other words, deficient in every Greek virtue."

I am grateful to you, Grinning Cat, for supplying this information. What was once intuitive thinking that the bible offers a wretched method for learning how to function in life, there now exist a concrete rationale for rejecting it. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 1, 2019 at 11:52pm

Plinius, a powerful statement by Thomas Payne; thanks. 

Comment by Plinius on September 1, 2019 at 11:44pm

the god of the bible is of course the projection of a goat herder's ideal; it supports his wishes to have everything he wants - women, land - and no responsibilities.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on September 1, 2019 at 11:04pm

I never know that, Grinning Cat. "Nowhere in Jewish. Islamic or Christian scriptures do these Greek ideas of divine perfection appear. [...] There is overwhelming biblical witness in the Old Testament to God’s lack of perfection in the Greek sense" But it matters not, since it's obsolete nonsense anyway.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 1, 2019 at 1:03pm

The god of the bible isn't just the capriciously malevolent bully that Richard Dawkins described him as. He is also a thoughtless, clueless ignoramus.

Comment by Patricia on September 1, 2019 at 1:00pm

And my favourite from Stephen Fry.....

Fry was asked what he would say to God at the pearly gates of heaven. The ensuing rant – articulate, polite but savage – was widely shared.

"I'll say, 'Bone cancer in children? What's that about?' How dare you? How dare you create a world in which there is such misery that is not our fault? It's not right. It's utterly, utterly evil."

And the eye-worm? It's this to which he refers when he says: "Yes the world is very splendid but it has in it insects whose whole life cycle is to burrow into the eyes of children and make them blind. It eats outwards from the eyes. Why?"

 

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