Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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The Founding Myth: A Striking Quote

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 4. 4 Replies

Over the last couple of weeks, I have been reading Andrew L. Seidel’s excellent book, The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is UN-AMERICAN. Barely four chapters in, Seidel has already…Continue

Tags: rights, The Founding Myth, Seidel, Andrew

"Mr. President ... I Don't Work For You"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 31. 13 Replies

There has been a major shot across President Donald Trump's bow and it came, believe it or not, from Fox News.  Specifically, it came from Fox reporter and commentator Neil Cavuto, in response to a…Continue

Tags: Neil Cavuto, Fox News, Donald Trump

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 1. 1 Reply

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

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Comment by Loren Miller on November 24, 2019 at 5:53am

I believe what I do is a logical consequence of my understanding of the facts, and my position will obligately change according to my information.
-- Aron Ra

For as long as I've been aware of him, Aron has been about very little other than the FACTS, especially as it comes to his expertise regarding evolution. There have been many believers who thought they could challenge him on the facts and win.

They've since learned otherwise.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 24, 2019 at 5:47am

I see it very simply, Ruth:

  • Why dismiss other gods?  Lack of evidence.
  • Why dismiss Yahweh?  SAME REASON

The problem, of course, is that believers think their holy books amount to evidence When It Doesn't, and they need to be disabused of that irrational bias.  Not an easy task, I'll grant you, but there it is.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on November 23, 2019 at 10:38pm

"When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Interesting framing, but I'm not sure it works that way. 

Spot on with the George Kent quote! 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 23, 2019 at 8:08pm

As to promoting principled anti-corruption action, it pisses them off and they let everyone know they are pissed! They also start blaming everyone except themselves when confronted with corrupt action. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 23, 2019 at 8:03pm

The things that make me different are the things that make me.”
― A. A. Milne

Comment by Loren Miller on November 23, 2019 at 6:57am

You can't promote principled anti-corruption action without pissing off corrupt people.
-- Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent

Some people might say that the above is intuitively obvious, bordering on tautological. Considering the current political situation, I think it is an important and cogent observation and very much deserving of our attention and consideration.

Comment by Patricia on November 22, 2019 at 12:32pm

One of the first things I started asking when I was a little kid.....if the morons had the true religion, & the neighbours had their true religions, caffliks, presbeaters, bapturds, etc., I started thinking none of them were.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 22, 2019 at 5:24am

There are so many different faiths. How do you know the holy book you have been brought up with is the true one? And if all the others are wrong, what makes you think your holy book isn't wrong too?
-- Richard Dawkins, Outgrowing God: A Beginner’s Guide

The above is a wonderful variation on another quote which I posted a while back:

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
-- Stephen F. Roberts

Comment by Loren Miller on November 21, 2019 at 6:50am

The only difference between miracles and magic is who does it.
-- Aron Ra

And at least in the case of current day magic (or if you will, "illusion"), the magician can show you how it was done. In the case of a "miracle," not only can't the priest demonstrate how, it's very likely he can't even replicate the trick!

Comment by Plinius on November 21, 2019 at 1:33am

Well said, James Randi, but don't accuse non-existant beings. They're not there.

 

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