Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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The Founding Myth: A Striking Quote

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 4. 4 Replies

Over the last couple of weeks, I have been reading Andrew L. Seidel’s excellent book, The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is UN-AMERICAN. Barely four chapters in, Seidel has already…Continue

Tags: rights, The Founding Myth, Seidel, Andrew

"Mr. President ... I Don't Work For You"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 31. 13 Replies

There has been a major shot across President Donald Trump's bow and it came, believe it or not, from Fox News.  Specifically, it came from Fox reporter and commentator Neil Cavuto, in response to a…Continue

Tags: Neil Cavuto, Fox News, Donald Trump

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 1. 1 Reply

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

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Comment by Loren Miller on November 28, 2019 at 7:23am

Man is the Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Ani­mal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion – several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself, and cuts his throat if his theology isn't straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother's path to happiness and heaven. He was at it in the time of the Caesars, he was at it in Mahomet's time, he was at it in the time of the Inquisition, he was at it in France a couple of cen­turies, he was at it in England in Mary's day, he has been at it ever since he first saw the light, he is at it today in Crete (as per the telegrams quoted above), he will be at it somewhere else tomor­row.
-- Mark Twain, The Lowest Animal

Old Homo sapiens too often isn't very "sapiens" in his dealings with the planet and his fellow "homos." Still, I think we've come at least a little ways since Mr. Clemons penned the above, though some have held onto the coarser nature which doubtless inspired that piece.  I would say that the least each of us can do is keep our own houses in order and treat others as we would be treated.  Seems to me I read that somewhere.

Happy Thanksgiving to those of us in the States.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 27, 2019 at 6:46am

In order to create a hatred-free society, the upcoming generations must receive authentic knowledge about the evolution of gods. Schoolbooks must teach the origin of life, anthropology and a brief history of each major religion. Students must learn when, why and how humans invented gods and religions
-- Ajay Kansal, The Evolution of Gods

There are a LOT of evangelicals out there who wouldn't be wild for the lessons Ajay proposes here. That doesn't change the necessity of their at least being taught, because the fact remains: WE created the gods. THEY didn't create US.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 26, 2019 at 6:44am

Three Quotes on Truth:

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
-- Winston Churchill

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either.
-- Albert Einstein

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
-- Buddha

Are you listening, President Trump? If not, eventually, you will wish you had.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 25, 2019 at 10:46pm

Akiba, an old-fashioned country Rabbi asked after recalling historical events in the O.T.,

"What did we (the Jews) learn? We learned that Adonai, the Lord our God, OUR God, is not good. He is not good. He was not ever good. He was only on our side! He is not good...he has simply been strong! He has simply been on our side!"

"When we were brought here we were brought by train. A guard slapped my face. On their belts they had written, 'God is with us.' Now, who is to say he is not? Perhaps he is. Is there any other explanation? What do we see here? All these things...but turned against us. He is still God ... but not our God. He has become our enemy. That's what's happened to the covenant. He has made a new covenant with someone else." 

The fabricated ancient tale of god turned against the Jews when the fabricated modern tale of the Nazis proved to be stronger than their fable. 

What can we learn? Fabricated power shifts as power shifts? Trump, beware of the stories you tell yourself. 

Comment by Loren Miller on November 25, 2019 at 2:41pm

GC, some time back, I wrote a piece on here about the movie, God on Trial which presumes to tell the story about those Auschwitz inmates and the trial, whether it did indeed happen or not.  I've been digging around here and can't find it, but there IS the matter of the final scene of the trial itself: a powerful and didactic piece of work which deserves mention here:

Comment by Patricia on November 25, 2019 at 1:31pm

I'll take that toast, with a little peanut butter please.

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 25, 2019 at 1:06pm

Charles Paterson's quote also reminds me of the story of inmates at Auschwitz convening a rabbinical court and putting God on trial; they ended up finding him "liable" for abandoning his covenant with the Jewish people.

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 25, 2019 at 1:04pm

Even the Flying Spaghetti Monster has a better record of appearances! 

Comment by Loren Miller on November 25, 2019 at 12:56pm

HOLY SHIT, GC!!!  I don't know who that street preacher was, but the second he went to his knees, I – Would – LAUGH!  "You pathetic clown!  Your stupid lord can hardly be bothered to show up on toast, never mind ruin someone's life!  Go kneel somewhere else!"

Man ... some people!

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 25, 2019 at 12:52pm

I've said that to evangelists before: if I die and somehow inexplicably retain a consciousness and come face to face with their God, I'll (1) be rather surprised, and (2) demand that he repent and make restitution to the billions of people he's hurt and killed (which he did while doing his damnedest to hide his existence). Resurrecting and healing all those people, in mind and body, should be a piece of cake for an omnipotent deity!

Don't remember if it was in connection with that line of conversation, but I once engaged a street preacher who ended up getting on his knees and praying to Jesus to ruin my life, so I'd hit bottom and come to see Jesus's goodness and glory. That's like asserting that 2 + 2 = colorless green ideas that sleep furiously! Or more accurately, like Orwellian doublethink: freedom is slavery, slavery is freedom, believe the Party over the evidence of your eyes and ears. And the persecutor is really the rescuer because his emissaries say so.

(And yes, it helps a great deal to be able to think of people outside those roles of persecutor, victim, and rescuer!)

 

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