Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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The core of permaculture is design.

Started by Joan Denoo Mar 5. 0 Replies

"The core of permaculture is design. Design is the connection between things. It’s the very opposite of what we’re taught in school. Education takes everything and pulls it apart and makes no…Continue

Tags: connection, design, permaculture

"If Right Doesn't Matter, We're Lost." (Adam Schiff)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Feb 1. 3 Replies

This is a bit rushed, but I wanted to post Adam Schiff's closing statement to the impeachment trial on 24 January 2020.  This is potent stuff, and it speaks to Schiff's integrity and determination to…Continue

Tags: statement, impeachment, Adam Schiff

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 18, 2019. 2 Replies

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

The Founding Myth: A Striking Quote

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 4, 2019. 4 Replies

Over the last couple of weeks, I have been reading Andrew L. Seidel’s excellent book, The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is UN-AMERICAN. Barely four chapters in, Seidel has already…Continue

Tags: rights, The Founding Myth, Seidel, Andrew

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Comment by Loren Miller on March 25, 2020 at 7:34am

So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thoughts it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?
-- Richard Dawkins

Got to think of them evil boojums and left-handed zindlefingers, too, Richard! [grin!]

Comment by Loren Miller on March 24, 2020 at 8:53am

Once an honest creationist gets into this debate with somebody who knows both sides of the controversy better than he knows his own alone, he will very quickly face a life-altering choice: whether to remain honest or whether to remain creationist, because it is no longer possible to be both. They either admit that there is substantial evidence for evolution and nothing at all for creationism, or they learn to lie about that and justify it in their own minds, because it is not possible to defend creationism honestly.
-- Aron Ra

I don't know how many "honest" creationists there are out there, but Aron's formula holds, nevertheless. The truth is what the facts are, as he would say, and a failure to acknowledge established facts amounts to an equal failure at an honest attempt to defend creationism.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 23, 2020 at 5:49am

The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.
-- Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

Right with you, Christopher...

Comment by Loren Miller on March 22, 2020 at 7:19am

I don’t know [why we're here]. People sometimes say to me, ‘Why don’t you admit that the humming bird, the butterfly, the Bird of Paradise are proof of the wonderful things produced by Creation?’ And I always say, well, when you say that, you’ve also got to think of a little boy sitting on a river bank, like here, in West Africa, that’s got a little worm, a living organism, in his eye and boring through the eyeball and is slowly turning him blind. The Creator God that you believe in, presumably, also made that little worm. Now I personally find that difficult to accommodate…
-- David Attenborough

Funny thing, Mr. Attenborough ... so do I.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 21, 2020 at 8:22am

Christianity as preached by the likes of Carl Gallups is not about hating the evil and loving the good. It's about loving the evil and calling it good.
-- Steve Shives

The above was part of Steve's commentary on Gallups' book, The Magic Man in the Sky. With it, Steve cut through the apologetics and down to the core of the issue: that the god of the bible, even as Dawkins also stated, was no being worthy of respect or even consideration, but an unmitigated monster.

Comment by Patricia on March 20, 2020 at 2:25pm

Yes, & thankfully he speaks out.

Be safe, Loren.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 20, 2020 at 1:50pm

We do, indeed, Patricia.  His words are downright refreshing!

Comment by Patricia on March 20, 2020 at 1:35pm

We need more young ones like Daniel Radcliffe.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 20, 2020 at 6:08am

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And considering the unmitigated mess which is the bible, never mind the profligate proliferation of sects, denominations, and cults Yahweh has spawned over the duration of humankind's existence, and add to that all the horrors and abuses done in his name, that excuse had better be extraordinary!

Comment by Loren Miller on March 19, 2020 at 6:46am

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That last line should be emphasized: "Religion leaves no room for complexity."  Reality has complexity and nuance and subtlety throughout its structure, yet religion dismisses it all with the specious phrase, "god did it."  How much do we lose, how much do we fail to learn because of that foolish phrase?

 

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