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Science Fiction/Fantasy Atheists

Atheists enjoy speculative stories as they *should* be enjoyed: for entertainment purposes only, not to be confused with reality. Members here can have fun discussiung the literature, movies, TV, etc.

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Welcome science fiction & fantasy fans!

As a science fiction/fantasy writer myself, I enjoy taking voyages into the unknown. Looking at the universe as it isn't often helps us put the real world into perspective. It's also fun to take an occasional vacation from the often-harsh reality around us. Unlike the theists, the religionists, the god-groupies who feel compelled to live in fantasy realms, we visit them and then come back home--and then go voyaging again.

I hope you'll all feel free to congregate here and compare your experiences in other worlds and times.

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Comment by Stephen Goldin on June 22, 2010 at 10:18pm
Have you discovered Eureka yet? Lots of fun.
Comment by Stephen Goldin on June 13, 2010 at 6:27pm
My wife and I are being interviewed Tuesday, June 15 on an Internet broadcast beginning at 5 pm Mountain Time by DJ/interviewer Mason Ramsey, who's a BIG fan of my book The Eternity Brigade. The topics will be science fiction and rock'n'roll/blues. If you miss any part of the interview, it's being repeated immediately after its first airing. I hope you'll listen in and enjoy!

Date: Tuesday, June 15
Time: 5 pm Mountain Time
Where: Rock and Roll Heaven
(which is certainly better than any religious heaven!)
Comment by Stephen Goldin on June 11, 2010 at 3:51pm
For those who enjoy space opera adventure, I'd just like to mention that Tsar Wars and Treacherous Moon, the first 2 books of my "Agents of ISIS" series, are now available in paperback format. (All 10 titles are available as ebooks; the paper versions are taking longer.)

If you buy through my Parsina Press website, you can get a coupon code worth $2.00 off the list price of each title. Happy reading!
Comment by Aaron Sikes on May 21, 2010 at 9:58am
Anybody planning to be at BayCon next weekend?
Comment by Stephen Goldin on May 13, 2010 at 8:29pm
My Arabian Nights-style fantasy adventure Parsina Saga is now complete. As recounted here, the series has had a complicated publication history--but now, for the first time, all 4 volumes are available at once in a uniform paperback edition.

For those of you who aren't familiar with it, the saga occurs in a world of djinni in bottles, flying carpets and other exotic elements that I always found fascinating, yet which many contemporary fantasy books have completely ignored. The plot concerns a humble storyteller who, through bizarre circumstance, must pretend to be a mighty wizard and journey across the world to prevent the ultimate triumph of evil and, even more important to him, save his daughter from a tragic fate. Along the way he encounters a city of apes, an army of corpses, evil magicians, the Isle of Illusions, an underwater kingdom, a dragon demon, and other adventures that are too much fun to list here. I had fun writing the books, and I hope you;ll have at least as much fun reading them.

The 4 books are:

1. Shrine of the Desert mage
2. The Storyteller and the Jann
3. Crystals of Air and Water
4. Treachery of the Demon King

If you buy the paperback editions through my Parsina Press web site, you can get coupon codes worth $2.00 off the list price on each title. The books are also available in electronic format from E-Reads.

Since works of fantasy, by their very nature, require supernatural elements, there is a religious system involved in this universe. I based it on Zoroastrianism and, as religious systems go, it's relatively benign. As a matter of fact, while I was researching Zoroastrianism, I found a precept written explicitly in one of their holy books: As much as you possibly can, do not bore your fellow man. As religious precepts go, I find that one of the most interesting.
Comment by Mrina on March 11, 2010 at 5:13pm
Thanks Stephen! Downloaded it- I will give it a read :)
Comment by Stephen Goldin on March 11, 2010 at 12:31pm
For the remainder of Read An Ebook Week (through 3/13), my short story But As A Soldier, For His Country is available for free download from Smashwords. It's about a soldier who's resurrected repeatedly to fight in war after war forever into the distant future, and it's the basis for my classic sf novel The Eternity Brigade (see below),

After RAEW is over, the story reverts to its normal price of $1.99, so grab it while it's hot!

Comment by Stephen Goldin on March 10, 2010 at 5:38pm

The Eternity Brigade, Final Edition, is now available in paperback format for purchase online. This is the book many fans consider my best, most important stand-alone science fiction novel, the story of soldiers being resurrected over and over again to fight in war after war stretching into infinity. As a gift to my fans, if you follow the above link, you can enter the coupon code 7MZ8GBWR to save $2.00 off the book's retail list price.
Those of you who've read the earlier versions of the book know how good it is--and many of you have told me you've worn out your previous copies. Those of you unfamiliar with it, I hope you'll give it a chance to impress you--or at least to entertain you.
Comment by Mrina on March 9, 2010 at 2:52pm
John: I am not sure Edmund from the Count of Monte Cristo "gets religion" in the end at all. The film version ruined the end by the way, it wasn't even remotely similar to the book. In fact the film version angered me a lot in that it catered to the mass beliefs/desires of the general American public rather than sticking to the original story. You should read the book.
Comment by John B Hodges on March 9, 2010 at 2:30pm
Elsewhere on Atheist Nexus there is a discussion started by the question "What are your favorite atheist/rationalist characters in fiction?" Some mentioned Edmund Dantes, from THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO.

I replied:
Regarding Edmund Dantes- I have only seen the film version of "The Count of Monte Cristo". It is a great film, and I recommend it, but (as in many other portrayals of atheists in film) he apparently gets religion at the end. At least, the end shows a reason why he might, it doesn't show him doing it. I don't wish to spoil the story by telling the ending, but the end is a reference to something he says early in the film, before he loses his original faith.

I have been reading science-fiction and fantasy since I discovered it in my early teens... so many characters. If I had to pick a favorite atheist character, offhand I'd have to say Eleanor Arroway in Carl Sagan's novel CONTACT, played by Jodie Foster in the movie version. She (and Sagan) are more agnostic than atheist. CONTACT is Sagan's commentary on the relationship between science and religion.

Most of the novels I have read are not "about" religion or atheism. Either religion is not even mentioned, or it is a fantasy novel where some religion is actually true. For example, Anne McCaffrey has a series of novels set on a planet called Pern; besides the humans, there are dragons there who can fly and teleport and have limited telepathy, but otherwise Pern is an entirely natural place. The human society there has no religion; in the early novels it is simply absent, in some later novel it is explicitly mentioned that in human history there was an early period known as The Age of Religions, now thankfully OVER. So, all of Anne McCaffrey's characters in that series could be called atheist characters. But the topic never really comes up.

David Weber is one of my favorite authors these days; he's probably best known for his series of novels about an heroine named Honor Harrington (starting with ON BASILISK STATION). But he's started another series, the first of which is titled OFF ARMAGEDDON REEF, which is set on a planet, fully naturalistic, but ruled by a theocracy bolstered by many "miracles" that are actually done by very advanced science. The main protagonist in these novels is originally named Nimue Alban but is known by all as Merlin; he is a member of the original crew that colonized that planet, he knows the scientific worldview and has access to a cache of high-tech himself, and he sets himself to a long-term project of overthrowing the false theocracy. Weber writes large-sale, epic novels, the science-fiction equivalent of "War and Peace". Three novels in that series so far.

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