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As a science fiction/fantasy writer myself, I enjoy taking voyages into the unknown. Looking at the universe as it isn't often helps us put the real world into perspective. It's also fun to take an occasional vacation from the often-harsh reality around us. Unlike the theists, the religionists, the god-groupies who feel compelled to live in fantasy realms, we visit them and then come back home--and then go voyaging again.

I hope you'll all feel free to congregate here and compare your experiences in other worlds and times.

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Comment by Aaron Sikes on January 31, 2010 at 11:18pm
Heading to WonderCon in San Francisco, April 2-4, 2010. Anyone else going?
Comment by Jo Jerome on January 21, 2010 at 2:58pm
Thanks Howard ... and this while I'm slowly brainstorming a story where I invent religions.
Comment by Howard S. Dunn on January 19, 2010 at 1:27pm
Comment by John B Hodges on January 16, 2010 at 3:34am
Greetings- I am a regular moviegoer (don't own a television) and I
generally like action movies, science-fiction, etc... so the previews of The Book of Eli henceforth TBoE looked interesting. But I read in one of the reviews this morning that TBoE is in fact the Bible, the only surviving copy in a devastated world... The protagonist wants to use it to do good, the antagonist wants to use it as a means of gaining power over others.

Now, I have been annoyed by "science fiction" movies that turn out to be thinly disguised religious propaganda, and actually anti-science in their message. "Knowing" with Nicholas Cage was a recent example of this kind, as earlier was "Signs" with Mel Gibson. "Legend" with Will Smith. "Solaris" with George Clooney.

But with only what I read in this morning's review, I can't tell which
way this latest movie is going to go. Given that the "power over others" guy is the bad guy, I might suspect it goes the usual way. But it could be more thoughtful than that. I might hope, for example that it ultimately says "religion is whatever you make of it", and that if you bring a good heart TO it, you can make OF it a positive thing. It does at least admit that religion CAN be used by the bad guys.

Of course lots could be said in criticism of whatever the movie may say or imply about Christianity. The protagonist, for example, carries a machete, and is very skillful and practiced at killing people with it. So I really don't think he's read the Gospels at all seriously. But that is a different debate.

I want to ask for comments from anyone who has actually seen it, whether this movie is at all thoughtful or nuanced in it's message about the Bible.
Comment by SJ on January 5, 2010 at 6:47pm
FIAWOL
Comment by Howard S. Dunn on January 4, 2010 at 2:03am
Comment by Adi Ashburner on January 1, 2010 at 4:40pm
Hey all,
I'm cross-posting this on a few of my groups. Naughty, I know, but since this has to do with gays, athiesm and Toronto, I thought it'd be okay. Plus it's fun. And everyone likes fun.

Anyway, I have a comedy webseries that just released its second episode which has a rather a lot to do with religion.

Set 10 years after a cataclysmic event has killed 75% of the world's population, three friends struggle to get by working in the world's now most-successful company: A grief counseling agency.

In episode 2, Lupe has decided that a more spiritual approach to her grief counseling calls would allow her to log more calls in the company, so she embarks on a quest to find the religion that suits her best.

Anyway, you can check it out at http://www.thisdaymustend.com or go directly to episode 2: http://www.youtube.com/user/ThisDayMustEnd#p/a/u/1/5_ewoseF3xU

But I can only assume you'd want to start with episode one, right?

So any feedback - positive and negative - let me know!
Comment by Jo Jerome on December 31, 2009 at 1:14pm
Yeah, in talking with friends I've learned I'm by far not the only one who, at some point in the film, swatted at what I thought was a bug or dust bunny in my face only to realize it's an insect from the film.
Comment by Stephen Goldin on December 30, 2009 at 3:43pm
The best part of it was the little things--ashes, sparks, and those wonderful white floating parachute things.
Comment by Jo Jerome on December 30, 2009 at 1:32pm
Thanks Stephen. Fairly warned.

Meanwhile ... AVATAR 3D!!!

OMFG!!!

NERD-GASM!!! NERD-GASM!!!

Actually, I give the film itself about a 7 out of 10. But the 3D tech and effects were truly spectacular. And I love that there weren't any gratuitous 3D shots. Usually in 3D movies there are those shots of someone reaching or throwing something or something that looks really contrived and was obviously just there for the 3D effect. While Avatar had it's fair share of reaching and shooting and grabbing and throwing, it looked natural, like it belonged and wasn't just there to say "Hey, look at our cool 3D!"

Seeing it again tonight along with "Sherlock Holmes."
 

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