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Started by tom sarbeck. Last reply by Plinius Dec 9, 2017. 5 Replies

In the Navy in 1950 my “buddies” told me to drink it or skip the coffee break.Naive, I believed them but needed four teaspoons of sugar to make it drinkable.Several months ago read of cold-brew in…Continue

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Coffee could literally be a lifesaver

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Randall Smith Nov 18, 2015. 1 Reply

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Comment by Patricia on April 7, 2018 at 6:10pm

We also don't travel well.

Comment by Patricia on April 7, 2018 at 6:08pm

We lived in the milder climates & had more arthritic, allergies, & breathing problems.

We like the cold as long as its not too cold. We don't like the heat at all, so are rather glad our summers are not too long.

As for the wildfires, this is the most dangerous it has ever been, & I don't know where we'd move to other than Iceland.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2018 at 6:04pm

Patricia, I don't envy you the suspense of being in a forested area with the threats of fires, and in a cold area with threats of winter storms! Do you ever consider moving to a milder climate?

If I were younger, I would sell everything I have and move out of the U.S. I am not sure where I would move to, perhaps to a "happier" nation, i.e. 

  • Norway (7.53)
  • Denmark (7.52)
  • Iceland (7.50)
  • Switzerland (7.49)
  • Finland (7.46)
  • Netherlands (7.37)
  • Canada (7.31)

No, that would not get me out of the cold. Maybe a healthy nation, i.e. 

Country Name Health-Conscious Rank Life Expectancy
Sweden 1 82.1
Switzerland 2 82.6
Denmark 3 79.5
Norway 4 81.9

Nope, that would still be in a cold area. Maybe a peaceful nation, i.e. 

Country 2017 rank 2016 rank
Iceland 1 1
New Zealand 2 4
Portugal 3 5
Austria 4 3
Portugal might work! I don't think I would do well in Austria. I was there for a few weeks and did not feel comfortable with the rigidity. 
I might as well stop right here, I have no resources for such a move and I would not like to be so far from my family. 
Where is my Attitude of Gratitude Journal when I need it? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2018 at 5:41pm

Spud, it sounds like you made a wise decision, given the reality of the thing. I wonder if there is another way to protect your blossoms. 

Randy, have you tried other ways to protect your blossoms? 

I cut down my peaches and apricot trees because they were hit by late frosts and produced nothing edible. I am in a colder climate in Newport, WA., and would love to have some spring blossoms, and apple trees seem to be grown successfully in this area.

If I were going to plant an apricot or peach tree now, I would choose something such as these two varieties:

Hunza Apricot / Citation [SPRING]

Contender Peach / Lovell [SPRING]

Comment by Patricia on April 7, 2018 at 1:36pm

We've been snowing again, but also have wildfires starting in the province. Here we go again......

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2018 at 11:07am

I read a little about a Smudge Pot on Wikipedia.  It's "an oil-burning device used to prevent frost on fruit trees. Usually a smudge pot has a large round base with a chimney coming out of the middle of the base. The smudge pot is placed between trees in an orchard. The burning oil creates some heat, but more importantly, a large amount of smoke, particulates, carbon dioxide, and water vapor. This deliberate smog forms a "blanket" that blocks infrared light, thereby preventing radiative coolingthat would otherwise cause or worsen frost.[1] (Low clouds can have a similar "infrared blanket" effect, which is why cloudy nights tend to be warmer than clear-sky nights.)"

I see several reasons not to use it to protect my apricot tree from freezing:

1.  Cold nights usually don't have wind, but just in case, wind might carry the flame to a part of the small tree and burn it.

2.  It might be illegal to put that much pollution in the air.

3.  My tree is right by the public street and sidewalk, so I would worry that someone might steal it, or mess with it, even setting something on fire.

I read that their use in orchards have dropped because of environmental concerns as well as oil price increases.

Comment by Randall Smith on April 7, 2018 at 7:17am

I wonder where you've been, Spud. Hadn't heard from you in awhile.

My two apricot trees look like yours--eager to burst in bloom. They're always the first fruit trees to do so. Unfortunately, in the 30+ years I've had them, they've only produced fruit once. It seems when they blossom, we have a freeze. Every year. Once again, "hope springs eternal".

Joan, glad to hear you're doing some gardening! Keep active.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 6, 2018 at 6:33pm

Plinius, a wonderful greeting to see and so pretty! Everything turns green here in the northern forest as the snow melts away. 

Spud, your apricot looks healthy in spite of the cold snaps. Have you ever tried a smudge pot? I haven't used one, but the work of getting water spray to your lone tree indicates something easier might work. I don't know! Perhaps one of the peach growers can advise us on the pros and cons of a smudge pot. 

I finished cleaning out the greenhouse of last year's frozen left-overs. The soil is warm to the touch and a lot of moisture dampens all the beds. I am tempted to try some seeds out there, knowing seedlings are at risk. I definitely will start seeds inside, perhaps tomorrow.  

Comment by Patricia on April 6, 2018 at 1:19pm

Nobody starts gardens here until the end of May.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 6, 2018 at 12:52pm

Good for you, Plinius!

My Apricot tree started budding about 2 weeks ago, when the temperatures became warmer at around 35 F at night to 55 F in the day.  

One day, the low temperature was predicted to be 7 F degrees below freezing.  I was too lazy to turn the outside water on, run a hose up the tree, find a misting nozzle, and run a mist of water all night to keep the buds from freezing, but they survived anyway, even though it was actually 9 F below freezing.  It looks like they have to have broken out into flowers to freeze.

If it's predicted below freezing again, I will mist the tree.

 

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