The Childless and Godless


The Childless and Godless

This is a group to discuss the joy of being childless! I am amazed at the number of atheists I have met over the past few years that are childless by choice, here is a place to discuss stories and experiences!

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Comment by TNT666 on February 6, 2012 at 9:54am

I do find breeders offensive, to a certain degree, a degree similar to the offensiveness as religious people. You see I have religious friends and breeding friends... both groups of friends know I have serious 'issues' with their life choices, as they have issues with my candor.
As for the child abuse... it need not be scary to be child abuse... it's the very principal of brainwashing a person who's brain is not yet fully developed, especially when it's taxpayer money paying for it. I find it worse when society does it than when the parent does it, though I hate both aspects.

Comment by Prog Rock Girl on February 6, 2012 at 9:52am

I don't care much about the word breeder, but I think this sentence is pretty derogatory: "Having children is to reduce the woman to the status of an object, to make her a slave to the species. She becomes a "breeder," a machine for breeding." This mostly reveals what you think of women, Francois. Having children can make people a lot of things but it doesn't make them into objects.

Comment by dr kellie on February 6, 2012 at 9:17am

It was child abuse to me.  Try living into your teenage years "knowing" you are an abomination because you are gay.  Fucked up.  Or how about being 10 years old and worrying about your atheist grandmother burning in hell... 

Comment by Susan Stanko on February 6, 2012 at 9:01am

I guess it would depend of how the indoctrination happens.  Maybe I am just naive, but I think it would be possible to get a kid to believe without scaring them shitless.  After all, they do believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.

Comment by Susan Stanko on February 6, 2012 at 8:43am

The term breeder is not offensive

That is like the racist saying that nigger is not offensive.  You are in no position to tell people who have children what term is offensive or not.

The only people who object to religion being called child abuse are atheist parents who have abused their children.

I am not a parent and I do not consider it child abuse.  i don't really like the term breeder either.

Comment by sk8eycat on February 6, 2012 at 1:45am

"...some here in the atheist community have voice concern that 'child abuse' is possibly too strong a term to use for this form of religious coercion... "

I have more than one friend who was raised in a strict fundamentalist home, and had nightmares for years because they were told in great detail when they were extremely young that if they were disobedient, talked back, complained about anything, that they would burn in hell forever.  They were also told that their little friends who belonged to different religions, or even different xian churches, would all suffer the same fate.

If that's not child abuse, I don't know WTF is.

Even making a litle kid say that awful prayer that contains the line "If I shoulld die before I wake..." is frightening.

I am so grateful to my parents for not pushing that garbage on me.

Comment by TNT666 on February 6, 2012 at 1:05am

Yes children can be highly annoying... that goes without saying in this group. But one of the ideas I find even more annoying is religious child abuse. It's one thing to not breed, as I chose to decades ago, but it's another thing to watch the kids that are here, in public places, such as the school system, disciplinary centres, etc, who are forced and coerced into religious behaviour.
This is a blog, an archive, about religious child abuse. Though it is closed, for now, it still constitutes an excellent jumping point for anyone interested in the topic.

I know some in the non breeding community find the word "breeders" offensive... I like using the word, as it truly expresses my feelings on the topic. It's the same thing with religion as child abuse, some here in the atheist community have voice concern that 'child abuse' is possibly too strong a term to use for this form of religious coercion... I do not, I think it's a perfectly valid description of the action.
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Comment by TNT666 on January 26, 2012 at 10:07pm

That's the problem, being child free / anti-natalist is such a spectacularly small group of people, that if we want to have our ideas to have any incidence at all, we must take them to atheists at large, and society at large... if we dare ;)

Comment by Jonel Burge on January 26, 2012 at 9:34pm

I do think that a forum or message board format would be more useful, as topics of all sorts could be brought up, rather than having to section it into groups.

For example, I'd love to discuss clothes or dealing with life as a plus-sized person or social justice, or even just shit that happened to me, that I'd like to share with people. Traffic to individual groups is sparse, especially if you opt out of the email updates to avoid spam. A forum on the other hand could seperate a few larger general types of conversation and keep up-to-date topics.

Also, atheistnexus, while lovely to be at, gets less traffic simply because it's only atheists. Thinkatheist is hilarious to check up on because once a week it seems you get some crazy christian who gives us all John 3:16 in a personal message, then dissapears. Sometimes we get muslims who think they 'win' when people lose interest in arguing with them. And sometimes we get completely batshit crazy religious people. Not saying that we need to allow religious people to sign up, but I do think that the site design and construction needs to be rethought if they want to encourage discussion. I think groups could be secondary to a forum, as well. 

Comment by Steph S. on January 26, 2012 at 6:23pm

It's been revived!


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