Stigmas are terrible, aren't they? Let's abolish the stigmas and talk about the day when we felt comfortable enough to say "I'm an Atheist" or "I'm a Feminist." (or both!)

I remember when I was first making youtube videos, I wasn't comfortable using the word feminist simply because of the negative connotations, the stereotypes associated with the word...

I suggest we abolish that fear! If you're going to represent, then do so confidently!!

Viva la revolucion!!


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First and foremost, I'm a feminist. And basically that stems from a strong belief that all people and creatures deserve equal opportunity, rights and respect.
--Kathy Najimy

I'll have to agree with Kathy on that one. Now some have said 'well, why aren't you a humanist?' To that I just have to say: well I'm a humanist as well. I just feel that there aren't enough women speaking up about important issues. I'm a feminist in that I encourage women to feel empowered to speak up, after being oppressed for so many years.

Feminism is not only the principle that men and women should have equal rights, but that those rights should not be defined in male terms.  I'm for fairness.  We have to meet somewhere in the middle.  Men will have to give up a lot of privilege, but women will have to change too.  A good start would be to see that all the uncompensated work that women, especially stay at home moms do be compensated.

Feminism 101 is a good place to start if you're unsure of what feminism is.

Strong enough for a (wo)man, made for a woman.
ahhh shan, old times old times
i remember when you first came out
*holds back the tears*
I cannot remember when I started saying I'm a feminist. I was raised by a single man, my father, and his mother, a strong woman in our family. My father taught me very early about feminism. Finland is to some extent an (sexually) equal country compared to many other European countries (France, Switzerland, etc), but there are still things that favour men to women. That is why I'm a feminist.

However, I can remember when I started calling myself an atheist. Not long ago, in fact it happened very recently when I was reading Dawkins' The God Delusion (in Finnish). I first called myself an agnostic (at 17), after that a secular humanist (at 24), and now I call myself a radical atheist (being radical to me means that I can say it out loud that I'm an atheist).

This has been a big thing for me in Finland. I'm 45 this year and 20 years ago being an atheist meant that you're a communist, or you were stigmatised as such. This is the reason I shunned using the term atheist in Finland. To me atheism was never a political issue. Times have changed, fortunately. I have found it extremely liberating finally to be able to say what I am. I'm an atheist.
To most Christians here and to Fox News, being an Atheist means also being a socialist.

It's funny how many people will shrug off slavery to an imaginary dude in the sky, but walk right into slavery to their fellow man/greater good/state. Thankfully Atheists come from all walks of life, socioeconomic classes and opinions.
This sums up how I feel too. I often get the impression that feminists don't really want me. They play lip service to women having the opportunity to do anything they want, but when they find out what I want is to stay home, the eye rolling commences.* On the other hand, I don't really fit in with other stay-at-homers because they tend to fall into one of two categories: those who are only at home until their child is "old enough" (however they define that) and then they're dying to go back to work, or those who stay at home because they think God has commanded them to.

*I'm not assuming that anyone in this thread or group in general is rolling their eyes at me. I'm just reporting on the experience I've had over and over and over again with self-identified feminists I meet.
I've never been able to establish a career so far, despite working for the past 10 years, but I can see why a woman (or a man) would want to devote their time to family instead. Devoting time to a job is one of the most unrequited loyalties in the world and just trying to find a job can destroy a person's self esteem (I think that is where my self-esteem is at its weakest). Unfortunately, I don't want to have children, and I'm pretty terrible at housekeeping, so I don't think I could actually be a stay-at-home woman, when my husband works three jobs, without just being lazy and spoiled about it!
I feel ya man. When I first started coming here I had joined the feminist group. I said I probably didn't accept the total feminist package. I got a lot of questions about the total feminist package. I guess I couldn't verbalize myself well enough I got the feeling that I wasn't wanted there. There are lots of things that I learned in my women's studies courses by recognized feminist authors that aren't my cup of tea, nor do they have much to do with the female experience.

I do feel like having equality but not sameness is the best idea, but in that you need to recognize that choice plays a big part of life. If you go out and try to find a job and "purpose" like you're "supposed" to, and ignore your bliss at home where you'd like your purpose to be, then choice is gone. Finding purpose is key to happiness, just don't let others tell you what your purpose should be.
The only people I don't feel free to say "I'm an Atheist" are the people I work with, cause I work at a place with a Christian mission statement....Someday though, someday I'll work with smart people who don't steal and rack up skads of unauthorized overtime. Gotta love those Christians, at least you can count on their biblical morality.
That doesn't have to do with their "biblical mortality"- if they were truly following that they would selling their daughters, owning slaves and stoning you. It's ethics and ethics is not because of religion- it has been there far before christianity.
I don't ever remember thinking I wasn't a feminist. I was raised by a young mother who read Ms. Magazine and who left copies of the Feminine Mystique laying around the house for me to read.

When I was very young in the 60s and early 70s I remember being stunned to find out women could not box or play baseball, and thought it extremely unfair. My whole life I never wanted to do anything that was typically considered fitting for a woman. I frequently took jobs that were male dominated, and have lived a very untraditional lifestyle.

I have never been a seperatist, and I believe men and women are different, but equal. I raised two sons, teaching them feminist principles, and they grew up to be wonderful, humanist minded people.




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