I was born, raised, and married Catholic, as was my wife. I have since become an out of the closet atheist within the last 3 years.
My youngest daughter-- 7 years old, (out of 5 kids) is not baptized.
We have been approached by the church to baptize her.
Wife sez yes, I say no. I have my reasons, she has hers.
I don't want it to happen, but if it does, I don't want to be there at the altar.
(Being in the church wouldnt kill me though.)
Can I ask for opinions/advice for this situation?
Please remember the questions they ask of the parents at the baptism:
1: Do you reject satan and all his works?
2: Do you accept god, his son and the holy ghost?
3: Do you promise to raise your kid in catholicism?
I DO NOT want to stand there and say "NO", but otherwise I think it's a harmless ceremony, and the kid could use a party(money!)
But if I go thru with it, How could I look in the mirror and call myself an atheist?
Others have said for me to LIE, but I will not.
ANY advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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To be perfectly honest. You shouldn't do it because she will see odd ceremonies as something normal when people throwing water and making weird cross gestures shouldn't be something normal(Not to mention the singing). The last time I did was like 2 years ago before that I haven't attended any church for like 3-4 years. Seeing people with all the weird rituals made me feel like I was in the land of the crazy. I seriously felt very uncomfortable. That something that should be normal if you look at Catholicism(or any religion) from an objective point of view.
Doing for the sake of tradition is stupid. I hate that argument. Its the same argument for banning gay marriage, putting god on money, forcing us to say god in the pledge and for national prayer day. That argument doesn't cut it for me and any self respecting rationalist would agree with me on that. You don't believe in catholic teachings. No reason to have to put the stamp of approval for a baptism. If your wife becomes even more pushy and goes along with it. I wouldn't attend the ceremony because at least then you are sending a message to your daughter that you don't have to believe in that stuff.
Really I hate treating people like propriety even little kids. Let her decide when she gets older. At least like 12. I don't think its alright to force a child into doing that. Its your child and you don't need my permission to do anything with her. If you want an opinion from someone part of the community you just got it. Alright I am done with my rant.
I myself was kinda raised in a deist home that was loosely catholic. I was n
"Why do you need to say 3 variations of prayers 4 times in 2 minutes, or however long it takes. After 15 minutes of that it was too much."
Indoctrination. If you say it over and over again it just burns in. For a rational thinking person there you acutally feel the burning feeling.
"My son was raised in an atheist and agnostic home,"
I don't know exactly why I have such a problem with this but I rather say my child was raised in a religion free home and they chooses to be atheist. That is just me.