Climate Concerns

The "CLIMATE CONCERNS" group is dedicated to discussion regarding the topic of the ever present and serious issue of changes to our climate due to the introduction into the atmosphere of human induced effects which prove harmful to the environment and which eventually may prove destructive to our planet. 

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Odd results of Climate Change

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 26. 43 Replies

Take an amusing quiz to learn about unexpected effects of Climate Change. After each multiple choice question, you see if you were right (and the right answer if you weren't).…Continue

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Lethal Wet Bulb Temperature Events Already Starting

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 26. 5 Replies

When temperature and humidity combine to stop your sweat from evaporating, - bang - you're gonna die. That's 35°C wet bulb temperature. An Iranian city, Bandar Mahshahr, reached a wet bulb…Continue

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California total drought

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 15. 4 Replies

Drought Now Covers 100% of CaliforniaIn the US, much fresh produce has…Continue

Tags: food shortage, Climate Destabilization, California drought

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Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on September 4, 2015 at 5:42pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 26, 2015 at 12:29pm

Denise, welcome to this group of people concerned about the climate and what causes the events we currently experience in our weather. Individuals have different points of view and express them honestly and clearly in a civil way, with no name-calling or sewer language. You will be able to read many different opinions and glean evidence to help you make decisions that make the most sense to you. 

Comment by Donald L. Engel on August 26, 2015 at 11:49am

Welcome aboard, Denise!  I'm glad you used the word "consensus", because that is all they have going for them. There is no proof to back up their claim of "man-made" global warming.  It's all conjecture.

Comment by Denise Deiloh on August 26, 2015 at 11:10am

Good morning. Just joined and dropping in to see what I can glean. I accept that humans are messing up the climate based on consensus but I don't actually know a lot about the topic. I'll try to stay out of the way and learn something.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on August 20, 2015 at 5:12pm

Donald, this is in response to is conclusion you drew from the Glacier Bay map.

Look at the Glacier Bay map...; It proves the oceans were warming at least 100 years before the industrial revolution even got started.

Global warming is reversing 1,800 years of natural ocean cooling, s...

This is the trend:

Ocean temperatures have fallen significantly over the past two millennia due to the cooling influence of successive volcanic eruptions on the surface temperatures of the Earth, scientists said. However, over the past 200 years this cooling of the oceans has gone into reverse as warmer surface temperatures due to man-made global warming has caused the seas to heat up 20 times faster than they were cooling,...

You're not seriously suggesting that the carbon dioxide we exhale is significant in the global carbon cycle, are you. That sounds more like baiting to me, or perhaps tongue-in-cheek mockery.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on August 20, 2015 at 5:02pm

It was Michael Mann's"Hockey Stick", Donald. Al Gore just popularized it.

As to the CO2 from WW II, look at this chart. The CO2 didn't jump up so much you could notice from this scale. There's no bump on the blue line. The little dip in temperature (red line) around that time is probably due to one of the ocean-atmosphere cycles. Paying attention to a minor variation, as if it refutes the far larger trend is called cherry picking.

image source (chart stops at 2009)

There was no "Ice Age is coming scare" consensus from scientists in the 70's. Only 10% of articles predicted an ice age.

In the thirty years leading up to the 1970s, available temperature recordings suggested that there was a cooling trend. As a result some scientists suggested that the current inter-glacial period could rapidly draw to a close,... At the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a greater number published contradicting studies.

 Unfortunately, the small number of predictions of an ice age appeared to be much more interesting than those of global warming, so it was those sensational 'Ice Age' stories in the press that so many people tend to remember. [emphasis mine]

The vast majority of climate papers in the 1970s predicted warming.

Comment by Donald L. Engel on August 12, 2015 at 2:18pm

You mean Gore's "Hockey Stick" chart is correct?

Comment by Gerald Payne on August 12, 2015 at 8:04am

Donald you obviously haven't heard that the medieval never happened. I think it's one of those historical events that don't comply doctrine therefore must have been imagined!!

Comment by Donald L. Engel on August 12, 2015 at 2:01am

Go to Google enter "Vostok Ice Core data".  When a google page comes up, go to the top of the page and click on "images".  Every graph, and I repeat EVERY GRAPH shows that we are near the  peak of a warming period.  But we are not yet as warm as the previous four warming periods.  We are not even as warm as the "medieval warming period" of 1,000 years ago.  

Look at the Glacier Bay map above.  It proves the oceans were warming at least 100 years before the industrial revolution even got started.

As you stated, the world human population now stands at 7.2 billion people.  Every time a person exhales, they are exhaling CO2 into the atmosphere.  I just counted my breathing, and I exhaled 16 times in one minute.  That's 115 billion exhales per minute for 24/7 around the world.  If CO2 is causing the problem, then we need to start killing more people to save the earth!!

Comment by Gerald Payne on August 11, 2015 at 5:19pm

At least you made your point doubly clear Joan!


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