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Odd results of Climate Change

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 3. 73 Replies

Take an amusing quiz to learn about unexpected effects of Climate Change. After each multiple choice question, you see if you were right (and the right answer if you weren't).…Continue

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Temperature Anomaly Chart

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Plinius Aug 8. 1 Reply

From Climate Central, Temperature anomalies arranged by country from 1900 - 2016:Continue

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Comment by Čenek Sekavec on February 10, 2017 at 2:00am

Retired NOAA whistleblower John Bates and his revelations of political tampering with climate change data.

https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist...

"Over the course of the committee’s oversight, NOAA refused to comply with the inquiries, baselessly arguing that Congress is not authorized to request communications from federal scientists.  This culminated in the issuance of a congressional subpoena, with which NOAA also failed to comply.  During the course of the investigation, the committee heard from whistleblowers who confirmed that, among other flaws in the study, it was rushed for publication to support President Obama’s climate change agenda."

Maybe true, maybe not. Motive is difficult to ascribe. Honestly I don't really care.

But is the science good? Not according to David Rose, an investigative journalist.  

"NOAA has now decided that the sea dataset will have to be replaced and substantially revised just 18 months after it was issued, because it used unreliable methods which overstated the speed of warming. The revised data will show both lower temperatures and a slower rate in the recent warming trend."

Full article archive link: http://archive.is/hmXLn

I find it interesting that a respected man like Rose could only publish his article in a tabloid. That is the strength of the climate change political clique.

All of which might mean a return to the global warming haitus scientific consensus. Just a few years ago, before the Karl 'study' reinterpreted the data, the consensus was far different. See this article from back then. Trust not 'consensus' only trust fact.

Interestingly enough Snopes felt the need to weigh in on this with an opinion piece from a non scientist. Replete with links to flim flam site Gawker its a great example of rhetoric being more important than facts for some of the climate enthusiasts.

What do you all think?

Comment by Plinius on February 4, 2017 at 12:44am

I love that one, Ruth!

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 3, 2017 at 10:22pm
Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 3, 2017 at 10:17pm

Good-bye forever to 400ppm CO2.

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Comment by John Elder on January 26, 2017 at 7:24am

High importance - please see this site relevant to all: http://www.scientistsmarchonwashington.com/

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 22, 2017 at 7:00am

If only global climate destabilization / AGW could be ameliorated as easily as the Denier-in-Chief deleting all mention of climate change from the White House website, moments after he took office!

Two pictures from the Women's March in Philly, one of 600 sister marches yesterday to the Women's March in Washington DC (whose attendance far eclipsed tRump's inauguration):

Let our kids die of old age, not climate change! Facts matter (Sign at the Women's March in Philadelphia 1/21/2017)

Science is not a liberal conspiracy [with drawing of the earth] (Sign at the Women's March in Philadelphia 1/21/2017)(Many other signs affirmed, "Science is Real", as well as "Black Lives Matter", "Trans Lives Matter", and other sayings.)

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 17, 2016 at 6:19pm

To change from the serious talk, sort of, how about a satire from The Onion .

Saying the multinational oil and gas conglomerate had “really dodged a bullet,” ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson told reporters Wednesday how relieved he was now that it was finally too late to do anything about climate change.

... he felt as if a tremendous weight had been lifted from his shoulders now that catastrophic climate change was an inescapable certainty.

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on December 15, 2016 at 1:05am

Don:  Yep.  They make pains to point out that the recent stuff is not peer reviewed. Wish they would make more of a distinction between which are and aren't, but nothing can be done.

I know about the ice core data.  Was pointing out that some periods when that ice was being made were times when the arctic had zero ice according to the model and confirmed by geological strata.

Zero ice, but without the CO2 / Methane levels.

Therefore while we are within parameters for natural phenomenon with elevated levels we are also a partial influence. 

It's ridiculous to say we can exist on this earth and *not* influence it. Anthropogenic change is a fact.

Ruth:  Your graph and Don's graph match up rather nicely :)

Comment by Donald L. Engel on December 14, 2016 at 4:15pm

Ruth, the Little Ice Age hit bottom around 1600, but it skidded along the bottom until between 1680 and 1700,  They were still ice skating on the Thames River in the early 1800s.  It was dropping into the lowest point from 1300 to 1600, but the ice age lasted from 1300 to about 1800. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 14, 2016 at 3:58pm

If the Denier in Chief did do away with White House press briefings, irony strikes, since they're the ones who gave him millions of dollars of free advertising.

 

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