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Is Christianity Persecuted? (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia Aug 10. 7 Replies

Okay, gang ... when is the last time you saw Seth Andrews do an animated video on his YouTube channel?  Seems like donkey's years ago, don't it?  Well, apparently Jeff Sessions and his "religious liberty task force" got Seth's nelly up enough that…Continue

Tags: religious liberty task force, Donald Trump, Jeff Sessions, Seth Andrews, The Thinking Atheist

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 4. 2 Replies

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

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Comment by Grinning Cat on September 11, 2017 at 7:12pm

Talk about pure, unadulterated, arrogant ignorance in Henderson's article! And knowing what he'd propose as "more supportable" than atheism doesn't help!

Atheism doesn't require a view of the universe as materialistic and impersonal -- there are atheists who reject the existence of gods yet believe in other sorts of woo.

But that aside, even though Henderson cherry-picks quotes to suggest otherwise, a scientific worldview doesn't reject meaning and morality that come from us -- from our empathy and reasoning and emotion.

Our DNA and brains might lean towards narrow self-interest or in-group survival or wider altruism in different degrees -- but that doesn't negate morality, it just provides facts to keep in mind in shaping a sustainable society (like recognizing our desires for fairness and for aggression -- more on that at Partnership Vision).

"If your worldview can’t makes sense of the things that make most sense to you (like objective morality), then it’s not worth your allegiance.... You deserve a foundation that is strong enough to carry the values that carry you."

Stopped clock... twice a day... Pastor Henderson, may your ears hear the words your own mouth has spoken!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 11, 2017 at 6:02pm

In case anyone's in the mood for a dose of good old-fashioned ignorant, monumentally arrogant pre-suppositionalism, here's a lovely little piece guaranteed to make you puke.

Why There Is No Such Thing as a Good Atheist
By Pastor Rick Henderson


Huffpost

Comment by Patricia on September 10, 2017 at 4:58pm

Yes, the smoke stretches for many kilometers/miles.

FACTSHEET:

The wildfire situation is continually evolving and the information below is current as of 12:00 p.m. on Sunday, Sept. 10, 2017.

Fires:

  • There are currently 166 wildfires burning in British Columbia.
  • Since April 1, 2017, there have been a total of 1,225 wildfires in the province that have burned approximately 1,168,910 hectares.
  • Detailed information on wildfires of note is updated throughout the day at: www.gov.bc.ca/wildfiresofnote

Crews and equipment:

  • There are 3,087 firefighters and other personnel currently fighting the fires. This includes:
    • 303 from out of province
    • 1,413 contractors
  • There are 128 helicopters and planes supporting ground crews to fight the British Columbia fires.  

Evacuations and impact:

  • There are currently 15 evacuation orders and 29 evacuation alerts related to wildfires. For further information, visit: https://www.emergencyinfobc.gov.bc.ca/
  • Evacuation routes are determined by local governments in consultation with the BC Wildfire Service.
  • There are approximately 4,302 current evacuees due to wildfires.

1168910 hectares = 4513.187 square miles

Area burned larger than the state of Ohio, & still burning.

Comment by Thomas Murray on September 10, 2017 at 3:36pm

Patricia,

Fortunately for me, there was a time when I drove across America some 13 times and realized just how vast land can be that a map really do not show. So looking at your B.C. map of fires and I am seeing a vast chimney bellowing smoke all over the world. 

Comment by Patricia on September 10, 2017 at 3:17pm

Unfortunately, that map doesn't show the ones on Vancouver Island, nor the ones that are now out.

Comment by Patricia on September 10, 2017 at 3:15pm

Yes, Canada is large & BC is just one province. Many don't know just how large it is here, & from my town to Vancouver is about an 8 hour drive & we're not even halfway up the province.

This may give you the scope of our wildfires when the whole province was under alert!

Comment by Patricia on September 10, 2017 at 3:05pm

Canada is large & BC is just one province. Many have no idea how big it is here. For instance, from my city of Williams Lake to Vancouver is about an 8 hour drive, & we aren't even halfway up the province.

Comment by Thomas Murray on September 10, 2017 at 2:59pm

Patricia,

Thanks for the post map of B.C. superimpose over California. The magnitude of the B.C. landmass is overwhelming. I didn't realized the extent until you showed the map.

Comment by Thomas Murray on September 10, 2017 at 2:27pm

Ian,

As long as we continue to have these religious climate deniers nuts in our government, the longer it will take to recover. Sort of like cancer... it goes into remission but later metastasize into another generation of religious wackos. The Besty De Vos Prince family is a fine example, or Ted Cruz.

Comment by Ian Mason on September 10, 2017 at 1:49pm

Less and less of the world is fit for human habitation. What a mess people have made of it and those who try to change things are still ridiculed as 'tree huggers'. How bad does the situation have to get before the great mass of people begin to DEMAND that the Earth be respected?

 

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