Justice For All

Atheists have our own ideas about what is just and what is unjust.  This group will explore the elusive concept of justice.  Topics include racial injustice, death penalty, imprisonment, crime, and other aspects of justice in modern society and in history.  Without gods, what is the basis for justice?  What do humanists and others say about justice?  What do you think about current controversies and cases regarding justice or injustice?

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Latest Activity: Dec 11, 2016


Troy Davis's photo was chosen as this original icon for this group.  Davis symbolized inequality of justice in the US.  At the time of his execution, 9/21/11, the evidence supporting his conviction was flimsy.  There was known evidence supporting his innocence.  He was executed anyway. Since then the icon is changed to represent justice in general.


There are different nontheist points of view about justice, punishment, penalties, death penalty.   There is strong support for retribution and execution in the theist community (in the US).


What serves as "justice" is not distributed evenly across communities.  The most egregious injustice has strong racial overtones.  If you would like to read about, and discuss justice, what it is, who gets justice, and who doesn't, and stories relevant to this topic, please join and contribute to the discussions.


Resources  factsheet.  main page  executed possibly innocent

amnestyUSA death penalty information

death row population (CNN)  sept 2011.

innocence project.  The innocent and the death penalty.

innocence project Wikipedia discussion

California innocence project

Chicago innocence project

Georgia innocence project


Discussion Forum

Discovery Process Hurts You

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by tom sarbeck Dec 11, 2016. 1 Reply

Private Prisons Evade Taxes

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 26, 2016. 0 Replies

Debtors Prison for Kids

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 23, 2016. 7 Replies

Your DNA could be found on a weapon you never touched

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 4, 2015. 7 Replies

Climate Change hinders prison reform in CA

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Donald R Barbera Oct 22, 2015. 1 Reply

In the US, victims pay corporate criminals through taxes

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Oct 15, 2015. 2 Replies

Justice for the elderly - hah

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 19, 2015. 0 Replies

On Burying the Torture Report

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Daniel W Dec 9, 2014. 3 Replies

Black Panic

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by kathy: ky Sep 4, 2014. 7 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on August 20, 2014 at 7:25pm

California Highway officer to be charged with beating woman on highway.

This thuggery has to stop.  Police brutality undermines credibility and makes the good police officers unsafe too.

Comment by Daniel W on August 16, 2014 at 8:15am
Joan, wth time people tend to sort themselves out. The really aggressive ones learn who they can bully, and who they cant, and either go away or get barred. Demographics helps. When I was one of the only males in my building, the managers preferentially sent more violent or scary people to me. Now the demographics are more balanced and that happens a lot less. Plus Now I work with more older and sicker people who can see I care about them.

You are right about the need for optimism. We should be happy, and we should spread happiness. I tend to be very serious. and even now I have my passions. one is for justice. I repeat Ingersoll's happiness quote almost daily.
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 16, 2014 at 3:09am

Daniel and Carl, you each write with wisdom and compassion. We live in very troubled times. Daniel, you working with such hostile people when your intention is to serve, treat and heal their ailments gives you reason to feel hopeless. and Carl, you are not in the safest of working conditions either. Yet, I imagine you both as carrying on with good humor and skill sets that prepare you for unexpected events. 

If we succumb to pessimism, the pessimists win. I'd like to give them a good run for their money, not let them get me down, find positive ways to flourish and empower others to flourish. That may be a Pollyanna way of looking at reality, but when the day is done, it is a lot better to get up in the morning, do what needs to be done and go to bed at night knowing we gave it our best shot.  

And, those fool gun slingers have a high probability of shooting themselves in the foot. Grateful for the image, Carl. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 15, 2014 at 11:59pm

I sure would love to see Texas secede from the United States.  However, I'd be very worried about Texans illegally crossing the border and coming into our country.  We would need a patrolled border and fence.

Comment by Daniel W on August 15, 2014 at 10:46pm

Texas man in prison 34 years, without a legal basis for detention.


Intellectually disabled man, IQ of 51, convicted of murder, process used to select his jury was found unconstitutional 3 years later.  The logic is too twisted for me to understand.  The murder weapon is lost and the witnesses are dead.  He claims his confession was false.



Comment by Čenek Sekavec on August 10, 2014 at 10:09pm

The cop is claiming that they wrestled over the gun but I don't believe it. Sad...

Comment by Daniel W on August 10, 2014 at 9:35pm
Carl that video is hilarious! Thanks! Unfortunately his weapon was pointed downward, rather than at an angle towards... you know what.
Comment by Daniel W on August 10, 2014 at 9:27pm

Unarmed black teenager shot and killed by police in Missouri for walking while black.


I don't know what to say.


Comment by Loren Miller on August 10, 2014 at 9:24pm

Ummm ... Carl?  Can you get that with mayo?!? [chuckle!]

Comment by Daniel W on August 10, 2014 at 9:23pm

Carl, you need really good teeth to eat that sandwich.


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