Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Your private internet history up for sale, thanks to Republicans? Being considered by House *tonight*

Started by Grinning Cat 17 hours ago. 0 Replies

The U.S. House of Representatives will be considering S.J.Res. 34, a bill to repeal the FCC's protections for internet privacy, as early as tonight.The bill, passed by…Continue

Tags: FTC, Republicans, Congress, FCC, browsing history

The phony "freedoms" Republicans promise

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat Mar 20. 5 Replies

That's the title of Neil Buchanan's article in Newsweek (complete with irrelevant autoplaying video), reprinted from Justia's Verdict site where it has the title "…Continue

Tags: minimum wage, anti-abortion, anti-choice, scams, civil rights

Economics and Community values as to real estate owned by religious groups

Started by jlaz. Last reply by jlaz Mar 20. 6 Replies

I've been wondering off and on for a long time as to two inter-related (as I see it) issues: 1) evolving how people find community interaction when they want it. 2) real estate values of Churches and similar. 1) So, what I mean by the first is…Continue

California Deregulation as Foreshadow

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 8. 0 Replies

How the Energy Boys Fucked Over CaliforniaEven partial deregulation of the electricity market was a nightmare for California.In 2000 and…Continue

Tags: deregulation

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Comment by Joseph P on March 14, 2017 at 8:16pm


You do that.  :-P


They couldn't really do anything about the public VPN's, either.  Sure, most people don't need to use one, but what about people with small businesses?

What about people who run servers out of their homes, as I do?  What about people who keep servers at a NOC and need to be able to remote into them?

You can't regulate things like that, not even the "small-government" Republican party.  It would be comparable to saying that no one but corporations are allowed to buy the professional versions of Windows.

And say that they somehow managed to actually get a bill passed?  Great, I can VPN into a server in Canada or the UK.  No worries.

Sure, some jerkoff, Tea-Party congressman will propose a bill to do so, but then someone who knows how to do more than check e-mail on his iPhone will have a word with the moron.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 14, 2017 at 7:37pm

I probably should have said PUBLIC VPNs could be ruled against, Joseph.  Whether the average Joe can do without one or not could see a considerable bit of wrangling.

And parenthetically, I used VPNs in my last two jobs and yeah, they were pretty essential to wall off the corporate network from the outside world, while allowing me in when I was off site.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 14, 2017 at 7:28pm

Joseph, I'm going to check with Spicey to see if we should take you literally here.

Comment by Joseph P on March 14, 2017 at 6:50pm

Congress can't outlaw VPN's.  They're absolutely vital for doing ANYTHING online with any kind of security.  No corporate employees could work outside of their office without a VPN.  Corporate networks could not function outside of the building level, without VPN's.

I don't think you understand how basic VPN's are, since we don't use them very often, outside of a professional context.  I've done tech support for work-from-home employees, and ... well, they literally can't do anything without first connecting into the corporate network with a VPN.  Literally can't do anything.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 14, 2017 at 6:43pm

One of the early casualties - net neutrality. (Finally, we'll have "depressed areas" [the blights formerly known as slums] on the Internet.)

Comment by Loren Miller on March 14, 2017 at 6:28pm

The whole point of a public VPN is to make the user untrackable, Joan.  I suspect that, as a result, a LOT of ad firms will get upset, and it wouldn't surprise me if there were action in the congress to outlaw VPNs.  Problem is, the second they do that, the whole issue if internet freedom will likely hit the fan, and I doubt it will be pretty.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 14, 2017 at 5:34pm

The Best VPN Services of 2017

Will public VPN do the trick?

Comment by Loren Miller on March 14, 2017 at 5:17pm

Bertold, if that actually happens, the public VPN business will go through the roof!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 14, 2017 at 5:12pm

Republicans are about to let telecoms sell your internet browsing history — for your ‘protection’

[Raw Story]

A pair of Republican bills would allow telecommunications companies to sell their customers’ private internet data — but their sponsors claim the legislation would actually protect consumer privacy.

Sen. Jeff Flake (sic) (R-AZ) introduced S.J.Res 34, which would expand the Congressional Review Act to strip away privacy protections established in October by the Federal Communications Commission with broad bipartisan support, reported Privacy News Online.

Flake’s bill, which has gained more than 20 Republican co-sponsors, would allow lawmakers to repeal Obama-era privacy rules by a simple majority vote in the House and Senate and would prevent the FCC from establishing similar regulations in the future.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 11, 2017 at 6:48pm

>The "moral hazard" folks almost make me wish there were a hell so they could be sent there!

Amen, brother.



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