Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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The phony "freedoms" Republicans promise

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat on Tuesday. 5 Replies

That's the title of Neil Buchanan's article in Newsweek (complete with irrelevant autoplaying video), reprinted from Justia's Verdict site where it has the title "…Continue

Tags: minimum wage, anti-abortion, anti-choice, scams, civil rights

Economics and Community values as to real estate owned by religious groups

Started by jlaz. Last reply by jlaz on Tuesday. 6 Replies

I've been wondering off and on for a long time as to two inter-related (as I see it) issues: 1) evolving how people find community interaction when they want it. 2) real estate values of Churches and similar. 1) So, what I mean by the first is…Continue

California Deregulation as Foreshadow

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 8. 0 Replies

How the Energy Boys Fucked Over CaliforniaEven partial deregulation of the electricity market was a nightmare for California.In 2000 and…Continue

Tags: deregulation

More Pieces Of Donald Trump Russia Dossier Check Out (Rachel Maddow)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joseph P yesterday. 6 Replies

Originally when I first heard that there may have been a relationship between the Trump campaign and the Russians who were hacking the DNC and John Podesta, I wasn't sure whether to take those reports seriously.  With the information supplied here…Continue

Tags: John Podesta, Rachel Maddow, Russians, hacking, Drumpf

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Comment by Joseph P on January 7, 2017 at 12:14am

When something is a blatant lie, there isn't anything to think about, in regards to that.  Now, if the WSJ wants to leave their readers open to whether or not Trump's blatant lying is a good or bad thing, that's different.

The basic fact of Trump's nonstop, aggressive, willful lies isn't really challenge-able, though, unless you want to be laughed at.

What you're letting slide is what has been behavior by the news organizations that is a lot like what creationists do, trying to shove their unscientific shit into high-school science classes.  The kids need the basic education on the objective facts, before they have any sort of valid opinion on the subject ... which they might someday have, somewhere around the post-graduate level.

Most people turning to the news do not already have a basic education on the facts.  Nor do they have the time and ability to weed through all of the details themselves to determine whether or not Trump is lying.  News programs of old used to actually try to educate people, not do the sort of wishy-washy, you-should-make-up-your-own-mind-whether-or-not-he's-lying presentation that you're proposing.

Comment by tom sarbeck on January 6, 2017 at 10:04pm
Pitts' concluding thought experiment omitted mention of whether there were enough reporters to cover both the ribbon cutting and the mall event.

Columnists and editors deal with different problems.
Comment by tom sarbeck on January 6, 2017 at 9:47pm
Bert, some folks here will join you in resenting the WSJ for not saying Trump is lying. You and they want the media to stir feeling, not thinking.

The WSJ's readers want to think.

Need I explain that rather simple idea?
Comment by Grinning Cat on January 6, 2017 at 10:13am

I just learned about factba.se - a searchable "Donald Trump Complete" database that aims to be a comprehensive repository of his speeches, tweets, policies, etc., including transcribed video and deleted tweets, with links to the sources. Canty Media writes on the site, "We are testing this concept right now with the President-elect, though we plan to expand to cover other world leaders and people of note."

They're offering it through a freemium model, free for the basic service, with paid access to extra features for journalists. (They also offer "enterprise" arrangements for companies wanting their own video collections, etc. transcribed and indexed - no idea whether there are any takers.)

(screenshot from http://factba.se/ - background is a picture of Donald Trump in unearthly pale blues, almost grayscale) Donald Trump. Speeches. Tweets. Policy. Unedited. Unfiltered. Instantly. ('Mission' toggle with arrow) HOURS OF VIDEO 254.3 (search box with example 'ethics')

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 6, 2017 at 10:04am

(click to embiggen -- as if tRump's head isn't big enough already!)

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 6, 2017 at 10:03am

Joseph, I heard about the NC election board machinations. It just so happens that major elections all happen in even-numbered years. Coincidence? I don't think so!

Bertold, one aspect of the problem is the uncritical "Trump says" headlines, giving him a platform without meaningful fact-checking. If he's lying, questionable, or just plain wrong, the headline should reflect that, rather than only a rebuttal buried in the text.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 6, 2017 at 8:09am

Words of wisdom from one of my favorite columnists, Leonard Pitts, Jr.

Media must take a moral stand

[Whole article - Miami Herald]

Yes, news media must strive to be fair, to hold all sides to rigorous account, to offer a balanced view. But occasionally, there comes a point -- subjective, but no less real for that -- when pretending to moral equivalence between those sides is a lie, an act of journalistic malpractice.

In these perilous times, with authoritarianism coming to the White House and bizarre untruths infesting our national discourse, that is a sin we can ill afford. No one ever had to remind Cronkite or Murrow of the need to speak the truth when the truth was plain and the moral imperative clear. No one should have to remind this generation of journalists either.

Comment by Joseph P on January 6, 2017 at 12:06am


Apparently much more sleazy than what the Republicans attempted in North Carolina, trying to pack the state Supreme Court with Republican appointees, after losing an election for chief justice, and stripping the powers of the governor.

... and trying to set up a blatantly partisan policy for the board of elections, giving Democrats control of it on odd years and Republicans control of it on even years.  Yeah, that sounds totally fair, doesn't it?

Comment by Loren Miller on January 5, 2017 at 7:35pm

A little something for your entertainment, courtesy of Bill Maher:

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 5, 2017 at 8:52am

@Joseph - No kidding! How sleazy does something have to be for Drumph to discourage it???



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