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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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The Corporate Power Deadlock and Anthropogenic Climate Disruption

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 21. 0 Replies

Will Denayer's article thrusts us into startling clarity, by summing up our climate/economic/political situation.How climate change…Continue

Tags: fossil fuel corporations deadlock on governments, climate model failures, Anthropogenic Climate Disruption

Pew: Nonbelievers Make Up Largest "Religious" Bloc (Washington Post)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Plinius Jul 17. 18 Replies

The title rather says it all.  Nevertheless, details matter.  Here's the story from this morning's Plain Dealer (16 July, 2016):…Continue

Tags: plurality, nones, Pew, religious

I have a theory

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Jul 16. 1 Reply

I have a theory and I have had it for a long time. It started when I realized that religion was nothing more than myths and fables turned into sacraments and scriptures, that they were created by human beings, and they did not tell the truth. From…Continue

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Comment by tom sarbeck on July 16, 2015 at 5:14am

Joan, you are right when you say "[t]there is no need to feel shame or regret if a woman knows she does not want to raise children.

But in the Catholic schools I went to in the 1940s, nuns and priests put a lot of effort into creating guilt in both girls and boys. They used the word "selfish" more than any other.

In my sister's class two years ahead of me, a boy was an only child AND his mother was the only divorced woman in that mainly Catholic suburb of Cincinnati. I heard words worse than "selfish" about her.

I heard nothing about her from my "silent as stones" parents. I grew up not having heard gossip and not engaging in it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 16, 2015 at 3:41am

Chris! I know the awful things that women had to endure in order to be healthy. We have come a long way and still have some challenges ahead of us. The good news, we are capable, competent and comfortable in our skins. We need no father, husband, son, priest, or potentate to dictate out decisions. 

Comment by Plinius on July 16, 2015 at 2:44am

Thanks Joan! I had my tubes tied before I was 30, despite the stupidity of medical staff. (Does your husband allow this?) (You'll be back next year to have this undone!)  

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 16, 2015 at 2:24am

There is no need to feel shame or regret if a woman knows she does not want to raise children. She has every right to make that decision, based on what is best for her. I have seen far too many women who did not want to be a mother and who did not have a patience or interest in mothering and who had unwanted children No one benefits by an unwanted child. Certainly, not the child. 

A woman's wishes and needs trump any religious dogma or social expectation. I respect a woman who knows herself well enough to not allow herself to get caught in a trap for which she knows she is not well suite.

I have the utmost respect for both of you, Felaine and Chris. You had wisdom and self-awareness at an early age, when to do so meant going against some people's norms. We need more women who can think independently. Each woman is responsible for taking care of her own body.  

Comment by Plinius on July 16, 2015 at 12:52am

Same for me Felaine.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 15, 2015 at 7:07pm

I knew by the time I was 13 that I never wanted to have children, so I didn't.  I had 3 abortions before The Pill was available, and before Roe v. Wade, and I have NEVER regretted it or felt ashamed. 

I would have been a lousy mother, and have never hesitated to tell people so.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 15, 2015 at 1:11pm

Abortion is a nasty subject and one difficult to discuss without getting emotionally tangled. Those who oppose abortion have every right not to have an abortion. Those who have compassion for women know that abortion is not only an option, it is a necessary part of health care. If males developed a growth of some kind because of sexual intercourse, there would be a necessary law to protect the end of the growth. A fetus is a growth of cells that ultimately forms into a human. Women have the right to say "NO" to sexual intercourse, or use some form of contraceptive, or choose to abort. Women know they terminate a pregnancy and that is their right. It is also their burden. Fathers of aborted pregnancies have no say in the matter because they have no right to interfere with mother's rights. 

OH! I know! I will get hate mail for my position. Hate mail goes into the garbage bin.

A debate, on the other hand,  offers the opportunity to discuss both sides. I am able and willing to take on the topic. 

Thanks, Bertold, for the link. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 15, 2015 at 12:27pm

Salon ran a follow-up article on the Planned Parenthood sting:

Planned Parenthood’s biggest problem is not “selling baby parts”: W...

. . . No, Planned Parenthood is not illegally selling baby parts. Yes, the organization is donating fetal tissue and being reimbursed for transportation costs, which “is standard across the medical field,” according to Planned Parenthood spokesperson Eric Ferrero. The sting, which took place nearly a year ago, doesn’t tell us much about fetal tissue donation, a practice that Planned Parenthood is open(ish) about providing only now that it’s come under fire. Why we don’t talk about the practice more is worth discussing, but we’ll get to that in a moment.

First, let’s acknowledge the sting for what it is — the latest addition to an ongoing game of what we’ll call Deceitful Anti-Choice Mad Libs, which goes a little something like this: “This condensed, heavily edited video proves that Planned Parenthood does X horrifying thing in possible violation of Y federal law (except we don’t have much additional evidence about that whole ‘illegal’ part, so you’ll just have to trust us on this one).” It is the result of a carefully crafted attack that an anti-choice group has been working on for months, yet another example of an extreme viewpoint in an already polarized debate about abortion care.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 14, 2015 at 11:08pm

So organ-leggers are selling stem cells.  BFD.  How come amputees aren't lining up for a share?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 14, 2015 at 8:28pm

This just out from Catholic Vote:

An interview with a high-level national Planned Parenthood employee coldly discussing sale of fetal body parts as business as usual.

So I wonder how this will pan out.

Why do I have the strangest feeling that if this story were legit it would be breaking in at least the grocery store tabloids, if not in more respectable publications.

 
 
 

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