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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Michael Hudson: How Private Debt Makes the Rich Richer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joseph P on Friday. 4 Replies

Michael Hudson: How Private Debt Makes the Rich RicherMichael Hudson talks about the causes of inequality in the 21st century. He  summarizes the important theses from his new book "The Sector - Why Global Finance Is Destroying Us". for a symposium…Continue

Tags: capitalism, global, poverty, inequality, debt

Meet the Renegades Steve Keen

Started by Joan Denoo on Thursday. 0 Replies

Meet the Renegades Steve KeenSteve Keen’s, one of the very few economists, globally, perfectly predicted the 2007-08 financial crisis. Recently he predicted the Chinese economic downturn and the deflation…Continue

Tags: banks, lending, speculation, investment, crisis

Tomgram: Rebecca Gordon, No "New Normal"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 21. 2 Replies

Tomgram: Rebecca Gordon, No "New Normal" *We have a * President-elect with enough electoral college votes to be POTUS with an …Continue

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Comment by Idaho Spud on November 15, 2016 at 10:39am

I don't remember posting a Permian Extinction video.  Perhaps it was Joan.

Comment by tom sarbeck on November 15, 2016 at 12:18am

Thanks for the Permian Extinction video, Spud. I'd read only bits and pieces about it.

I doubted several early adjectives, such as 'nurturing' to describe earlier eras. Some pond scum engulfed other pond scum. Later adjectives are more accurate.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 15, 2016 at 12:06am

Joseph, you said it for me! "bring all immigrants into the system.  I consider the well-being of and fighting the exploitation of those immigrants to be one of the most important factors."

My experience as an employer of Mexicans in my garden and helping me with my chores has been positive. The ones I hire have been dependable, reliable, resourceful, intelligent, and honest.  I paid them above the going wage because they performed well. 

Comment by Joseph P on November 14, 2016 at 11:21pm

Probably either a Proverb or from Shakespeare, Cat.  It's amazing how many of the classic sayings that people think are biblical are actually from Shakespeare, with no biblical analogue.

It's the same as with Paradise Lost.  Most Christians have no idea that what they think of as their theology about Satan is nothing more than fan-fiction pulled from non-canonical gospels and other sources.

I generally just point to the Dunning-Kruger effect.

And yes, there are many reasons to bring all immigrants into the system.  I consider the well-being of and fighting the exploitation of those immigrants to be one of the most important factors.  But I try to keep my arguments to things that the conservatives actually give a fuck about, and clearly that sort of thing doesn't count.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 14, 2016 at 11:04am

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 14, 2016 at 10:35am

...How about Ben freaking Carson for Sec. of Education?...

Isn't there a "poverb" that the fool is wise in his own eyes?

And Joseph, you're absolutely right on enforcement and judicial discretion: "Should we fine every single person who goes one mile over the speed limit?..."

"[Immigration] laws should only ever be used as an additional layer on top of other offenses.  If someone has kept her head down and has been a good member of society for several years, then by all means, let's fast-track the person to legal, documented status."

Not to mention that we get significant economic benefits on the backs of undocumented farm workers, hotel/hospitality workers, etc. A fairer society would let them become welcomed and documented, and much less vulnerable to exploitation.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 14, 2016 at 9:56am

Comment by Joseph P on November 14, 2016 at 9:56am

Oh, and there's another issue with deporting all of the undocumented immigrants.  All of those people need to be given due process ... unless the neocons want to dispose of one of the constitutional amendments that were written by the actual founding fathers whose names the neocons like to jack off to.  The courts are already overloaded with the people we're in the process of trying to deport, as it is.

Comment by Joseph P on November 14, 2016 at 9:48am

Yeah, on the factual stuff, we know that he's a serial liar.  On the fuzzier subjects, such as his true intentions?  Who the hell knows?

I saw Ben Carson on the lists too, yeah.  I just grabbed the most blatantly obvious one that was the most inappropriate.  At least Ben Carson had an education, even if he can't seem to remember much of it.

"Okay class, now let's go over your reading from last night.  Who can tell me what the pyramids were built for?"

I know one or two dim bulbs who voted for Trump because they don't like Hillary, and they said Trump didn't actually mean anything that he said during the election.

So, you admit that you voted for someone who you think is misrepresenting everything he stands for, and you have absolutely no idea what he'll actually do as president?  What the hell is wrong with you?

One guy tried to sell me on deporting all illegal immigrants with one simple question.  "Do you think that we should enforce all of our laws?"

Fuck no!  Can you imagine what it would be like if we enforced every single law with no allowance for time, place, and circumstances?  It often goes awry, because of all of the sexist, racist douche-bags in the system, but law-enforcement discretion and judicial discretion are absolutely vital, in principle.

Should we fine every single person who goes one mile over the speed limit?  It isn't possible to go for more than a few days without breaking a law, and it isn't possible to enforce almost any law with anything approaching consistency and fairness.

And when you have something like the immigration laws which aren't possible to enforce, what does this tell us about the laws themselves?  Some laws are broken as shit and shouldn't be allowed to stand.

When someone who is here illegally commits a significant crime, then yes, deport the bastard and be rid of him.  Those laws should only ever be used as an additional layer on top of other offenses.  If someone has kept her head down and has been a good member of society for several years, then by all means, let's fast-track the person to legal, documented status.  Hell, the people who have been here illegally but have otherwise been good citizens have already been tested.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 14, 2016 at 9:17am

Great question as far as which is worse. How about Ben freaking Carson for Sec. of Education? The only thing we can count on for sure is that nothing he says means anything.

 
 
 

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