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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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New Rule: What Would a Dick Do? (Bill Maher)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 11. 4 Replies

Lead bullets?  Asbestos?!?  Rolling back mileage requirements that the automobile industry had already agreed to???  Such moves aren't just stupid or pandering to the corporate state, they are, to put it succinctly, DICK MOVES, put into motion by…Continue

Tags: move, dick, president, Drumpf, Donald Trump

Your private internet history up for sale, thanks to Republicans

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 30. 21 Replies

Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives will be considering passed S.J.Res. 34, a bill to repeal the FCC's protections for internet privacy, as early…Continue

Tags: regulatory capture, corporate capture

The phony "freedoms" Republicans promise

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat Mar 20. 5 Replies

That's the title of Neil Buchanan's article in Newsweek (complete with irrelevant autoplaying video), reprinted from Justia's Verdict site where it has the title "…Continue

Tags: minimum wage, anti-abortion, anti-choice, scams, civil rights

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Comment by Grinning Cat on January 7, 2017 at 12:27pm

Trump in the Oval Office, refusing a thick “Daily intelligence briefing” while holding up a smartphone displaying “FAKE NEWS”: “Don’t bother. I’m already up to speed.”(click to embiggen)

Apropos: "Putin Led a Complex Cyberattack Scheme to Aid Trump, Report Finds" (yesterday's NYT)

"Mr. Trump told The New York Times in an interview that the storm surrounding Russian hacking was nothing more than a “political witch hunt” carried out by his adversaries, who he said were embarrassed by their loss to him in the 2016 election. Speaking by telephone three hours before the intelligence briefing, Mr. Trump repeatedly criticized the intense focus on Russia."

(via @MikeIsaac on Twitter)

Comment by Joseph P on January 7, 2017 at 12:06pm

Err, I'm not seeing where you're going with that.  Calling Trump a nonstop liar and exposing his lies would have been beneficial, if it meant that we didn't get him as a president.

I don't see how your comments apply to anything we're talking about.  Explain please.

Comment by tom sarbeck on January 7, 2017 at 12:34am
Joseph, when you'll never see a guy again you won't lose a lot if you call him on a lie.
When you will see him again, soon or often, you might want to be more tactful and say "There's more recent info you'll want to check."
But go ahead and your bridges if you like.
Comment by Joseph P on January 7, 2017 at 12:14am

When something is a blatant lie, there isn't anything to think about, in regards to that.  Now, if the WSJ wants to leave their readers open to whether or not Trump's blatant lying is a good or bad thing, that's different.

The basic fact of Trump's nonstop, aggressive, willful lies isn't really challenge-able, though, unless you want to be laughed at.

What you're letting slide is what has been behavior by the news organizations that is a lot like what creationists do, trying to shove their unscientific shit into high-school science classes.  The kids need the basic education on the objective facts, before they have any sort of valid opinion on the subject ... which they might someday have, somewhere around the post-graduate level.

Most people turning to the news do not already have a basic education on the facts.  Nor do they have the time and ability to weed through all of the details themselves to determine whether or not Trump is lying.  News programs of old used to actually try to educate people, not do the sort of wishy-washy, you-should-make-up-your-own-mind-whether-or-not-he's-lying presentation that you're proposing.

Comment by tom sarbeck on January 6, 2017 at 10:04pm
Pitts' concluding thought experiment omitted mention of whether there were enough reporters to cover both the ribbon cutting and the mall event.

Columnists and editors deal with different problems.
Comment by tom sarbeck on January 6, 2017 at 9:47pm
Bert, some folks here will join you in resenting the WSJ for not saying Trump is lying. You and they want the media to stir feeling, not thinking.

The WSJ's readers want to think.

Need I explain that rather simple idea?
Comment by Grinning Cat on January 6, 2017 at 10:13am

I just learned about factba.se - a searchable "Donald Trump Complete" database that aims to be a comprehensive repository of his speeches, tweets, policies, etc., including transcribed video and deleted tweets, with links to the sources. Canty Media writes on the site, "We are testing this concept right now with the President-elect, though we plan to expand to cover other world leaders and people of note."

They're offering it through a freemium model, free for the basic service, with paid access to extra features for journalists. (They also offer "enterprise" arrangements for companies wanting their own video collections, etc. transcribed and indexed - no idea whether there are any takers.)

(screenshot from http://factba.se/ - background is a picture of Donald Trump in unearthly pale blues, almost grayscale) Donald Trump. Speeches. Tweets. Policy. Unedited. Unfiltered. Instantly. ('Mission' toggle with arrow) HOURS OF VIDEO 254.3 (search box with example 'ethics')

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 6, 2017 at 10:04am

(click to embiggen -- as if tRump's head isn't big enough already!)

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 6, 2017 at 10:03am

Joseph, I heard about the NC election board machinations. It just so happens that major elections all happen in even-numbered years. Coincidence? I don't think so!

Bertold, one aspect of the problem is the uncritical "Trump says" headlines, giving him a platform without meaningful fact-checking. If he's lying, questionable, or just plain wrong, the headline should reflect that, rather than only a rebuttal buried in the text.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 6, 2017 at 8:09am

Words of wisdom from one of my favorite columnists, Leonard Pitts, Jr.

Media must take a moral stand

[Whole article - Miami Herald]

Yes, news media must strive to be fair, to hold all sides to rigorous account, to offer a balanced view. But occasionally, there comes a point -- subjective, but no less real for that -- when pretending to moral equivalence between those sides is a lie, an act of journalistic malpractice.

In these perilous times, with authoritarianism coming to the White House and bizarre untruths infesting our national discourse, that is a sin we can ill afford. No one ever had to remind Cronkite or Murrow of the need to speak the truth when the truth was plain and the moral imperative clear. No one should have to remind this generation of journalists either.

 
 
 

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