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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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New Rule: What Would a Dick Do? (Bill Maher)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 11. 4 Replies

Lead bullets?  Asbestos?!?  Rolling back mileage requirements that the automobile industry had already agreed to???  Such moves aren't just stupid or pandering to the corporate state, they are, to put it succinctly, DICK MOVES, put into motion by…Continue

Tags: move, dick, president, Drumpf, Donald Trump

Your private internet history up for sale, thanks to Republicans

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan Mar 30. 21 Replies

Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives will be considering passed S.J.Res. 34, a bill to repeal the FCC's protections for internet privacy, as early…Continue

Tags: regulatory capture, corporate capture

The phony "freedoms" Republicans promise

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat Mar 20. 5 Replies

That's the title of Neil Buchanan's article in Newsweek (complete with irrelevant autoplaying video), reprinted from Justia's Verdict site where it has the title "…Continue

Tags: minimum wage, anti-abortion, anti-choice, scams, civil rights

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Comment by Daniel W on December 18, 2016 at 11:35am

Joseph, I lose it in voice mail too.  Also with telephone people like the encounter described below.  If I can, I write it down first so that I don't babble.

Comment by Daniel W on December 18, 2016 at 11:27am

Joseph, I agree with you 100% that a place is needed for venting and safe discussion among like minded people.  I apologize for my strong wording.

Kathy, I think a ow information voter can perceive that they are being demeaned.  I am guilty of doing that online in places such as this.  They won't be reading here, but they are well aware of what their pundits tell them.

Tom, you make some really good points.  First, that changes of leadership renew organizations, as well as the unreported benefit that they probably renew the people being replaced, who then need to adapt and grow and learn new things.  It's hard, but stagnation is bad too.

Tom, your other point about the Berni Sanders movement is well taken.  I don't disagree with that at all.  I thought Clinton had a better chance in the general election, and maybe I was wrong.  We'll never know.  Is it possible that he too, has been in politics too long, and that fresher leaders are needed? 

I continue to assert that a revolt of yellow dog Democrats is needed, not just the young but the old, and not just the coasts and liberal strongholds, but the rust belt and corn belt and agricultural belt of the Southeast, and blue collar everywhere.  We need balance of powers, not elites who as Tom states abandon their base.  The Democrat party should have a big tent, not just politically correct and blue state.  Where does the rubber hit the road?  Details, the devil is in the details.

Comment by Joseph P on December 18, 2016 at 1:24am

That's like me in a voice-mail, Joan.  I hear the beep, and I just freaking lose it.  By the time I reach about 30 or 45 seconds in, I forget what I said during the first 15 or 20 seconds, and then I just ramble all over the place, trying to cover things that I probably already covered.

Comment by k.h. ky on December 18, 2016 at 1:04am
Can a low information voter be insulted? I mean wouldn't the have to know enough to know an insult. Lol
Comment by tom sarbeck on December 18, 2016 at 12:59am
A US senator once told an environmental group I was active with that after about six years a reform group needs reform.
The reason was that as a group's leaders gain skills they separate themselves from the other members and become an elite.
Don't be discouraged by that; simply accept it as a reality of politics.
Comment by Joan Denoo on December 18, 2016 at 12:39am

Please forgive my double sentences and paragraphs. I vow to be more careful in future posts. 

Comment by tom sarbeck on December 18, 2016 at 12:18am
Daniel, I appreciate the effort your Problem-Solution post below required. I was hyper-active in the 1970s and 1980s (less active since then) and saw the elites of both parties abandon their base.
IMO the Repubs exploited their based more cruelly than the Dems did, and when the rebellion came Trump was far more the demagogue than Sanders was.
How does your voter-led revolt differ from the revolt Bernie Sanders led?
Comment by Joan Denoo on December 18, 2016 at 12:12am

Daniel, Joseph P., and Ruth, I very much like the tone of this discussion. Yes, it is time to listen to the wage-worker, the small business person, and to those who pay taxes while seeing the One Percenters take advantage of our tax system. Yes, it is time to start a tax-paying, voting person revolt against the tyranny of corruption in our governments. 

Yes, it is time to listen to the wage-worker, the small business person, and to those who pay taxes while seeing the One Percenters take advantage of our tax system. Yes, it is time to start a tax-paying, voting person revolt against the tyranny of corruption in our governments. 

Yes, it is time to start a tax-paying, voting person revolt against the tyranny of corruption in our governments. 

Yes, it is time to confront people who make uninformed statements and challenge those who spread false news. A face-palm button is in order to facilitate this action. 

Yes, ridicule is a valid response to some individuals and groups, as is to react, reply, rejoin, challenge, inform, explain, question, retort, inspire, advise, describe, doubt, counter, discuss, and to respond with cynicism, pessimism, and skepticism.

I expect and welcome and respect those who respond to my writings with cynicism, pessimism, and skepticism. The old CPS responses. 

 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 17, 2016 at 11:24pm

I see low information voters as having been invisibly shaped by the algorithms in their communication media. See Oliver Luckett's short video in this discussion. It's not just lack of information, willful ignorance, or being tricked by astroturfing and fake news. We are all manipulated in sophisticated ways to which we are blind. Atheist Nexus is a safe haven from this silo effect in one sense, but we're also a self-selected information bubble too. I ordered his book. Will know more after I've read it.

Comment by Joseph P on December 17, 2016 at 11:01pm

Well yeah, of course this site is an echo chamber, in respect to the vast majority of issues.  This is a safe place for ridicule, when we need to vent steam, sort of like what we do over in Atheist Humor.

In person or in whatever sort of personal interaction, I generally go for an attempt at education.  It's the same as when a young-Earth creationist comes out with an amazingly ignorant and idiotic question that they think is a brilliant zinger, such as, "If humans came from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys?"

My response ... after the face-palm ... is usually something like, "It's not monkeys; it's apes.  And we are apes, and there are many species of ape.  Now, would you like a crash-course on how speciation works, so you can learn why what you just said is so silly, or am I wasting my time?"

A political discussion, with someone who said something similarly silly within the political realm, would probably follow similar lines.

Ridicule is only a last resort and is only useful if there are watchers who are on the fence.

 
 
 

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