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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Churches Get Creepy Facial Recognition Software to Track Members

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Valerie Tarico put up an excellent article yesterday on marketing efforts by “entrepreneurial” churches, including use of client…Continue

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Christian privilege: A threat to our American values (Kristi Winters)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by tom sarbeck Jun 3. 5 Replies

I came to learn about Kristi by way of my favorite YouTube dude, Steve Shives.  She may not be as prolific as Steve as it comes to video production, but when it comes to taking a topic and being utterly, scathingly on point, she shows many of the…Continue

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Republican Theocracy (AronRa)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 1. 5 Replies

At least some of us here on Atheist Nexus know who AronRa is.  We know that he's a great well of knowledge, who tends to dig deeply into a topic, who researches thoroughly, especially on matters which impact the relationship between the secular…Continue

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An Atheist / Antitheist Manifesto, by Brian Dalton

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 22. 8 Replies

The original title of the following video was: "The Way of the Mister: Atheist Fundamentalist," but having watched it twice, I can't escape the feeling that my moniker fits as well and perhaps a bit better.  In 20 minutes and change, Brian Dalton…Continue

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Comment by tom sarbeck on April 5, 2013 at 10:04pm

On collective capitalism, I saw the Moyers-Wolff interview.

The early 1900s book Mutual Aid by a Russian author describes cooperative efforts during many centuries. It tells of an attempt in Middle Ages Italy to destroy cooperatives.

A 2007 book said there are more than 11,000 employee-owned businesses in the USofA.

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 5, 2013 at 9:55pm

Yes, google national initiative and referendum.

I bring up the subject at every relevant opportunity, as I did here.

I've asked political reform organizations, one of them Common Cause, but they've replied saying they're not supporting it.

In 35 years of volunteer (unpaid) activity I've collected thousands of signatures for state initiative campaigns while living in Arizona or California.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 5, 2013 at 2:38pm

Tom, do you see anyone on the horizon that would implement such a plan? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 5, 2013 at 2:37pm
"a collective capitalist" ... that sounds feasible. I read Richard Wolff, and your style resembles his. Are you familiar with his work. Like capitalism, Marxism has not been implemented as he defines it, and I wonder if it can be.
Do you have authors you can recommend?

Richard Wolff, Marxist Economist
http://billmoyers.com/guest/richard-wolff/
Comment by tom sarbeck on April 5, 2013 at 10:18am

...a different form of government that works?

Always, always, always ask "...that works for the governed."

Daniel Webster (the pre-Civil War New Hampshire DW) is reputed to have said that when the people make the decisions they won't go too far wrong, but when they let others make decisions for them they can't go right.

People sometimes ask me if I'm a socialist.

When the situation allows for some humor, I reply "I don't want the people who brought us IRS Form 1040 to bring us everything."

When I'm serious I say I'm a collective capitalist; I want employees to own and operate their workplaces. When these owner/operators need managers with special skills, they can hire (and fire) them. When they need capital, they can borrow it from investors.

Instead of the Marxian surplus value going to Wall Street gambling addicts, it goes to the owner/operators. These people might occasionally need bailouts, but taxpayer money will go to taxpayers, not to Wall Street gamblers.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 4, 2013 at 11:58pm

Has anyone come across a different form of government that works? 

Capitalistic societies produce inequalities as well as Booms and Busts. After a bust, protection of labor increases their share of profits from production of goods and services. Over years, booms sucks money out of labor into capitalist's bank accounts. It happened many times in USA. 

Business Booms and Depressions Since 1775

Socialism is a form of government that owns, regulates and administrates the production and distribution of goods and services as it attempts to reduce social, economic, medical, and political inequalities among its’ people.

"Socialism's cons: 

Higher Cost than other forms of government, with higher taxes. 

Less Entrepreneurship to start new companies and/or restrict existing companies from being very dynamic. 

Less Rags-to-Riches as poorest people tend to not work harder, get a higher education, and innovate, because they are guaranteed a minimum standard of comfortable living. 

Big Government means more taxes, bigger bureaucracy, and more power in the government’s hands. Because governments tend to be  slow to change, it tends to mean stagnation and less innovation."

The Pros and Cons of Socialism

I wonder if all this is true? I don't know. 

What about labor owned enterprises? 

Richard Wolff on Curing Capitalism  March 22, 2013.

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 4, 2013 at 3:25pm

"BAILOUTS: From each according to his ability, to each according to his lack thereof."

Great!

A paraphrase?

"BAILOUTS: From America's wealthy a tiny fraction of their ability; to America's wealthy amounts proportional to their investments in politicians' needs."

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 4, 2013 at 3:18pm

GC and Joan,

Doesn't the Federal Deposit Insurance (FDIC) program "bail out", or protect, depositors? FDIC has been around all of my adult life and I figured it to be one of FDR's Depression-era programs.

Far left critics can attack FDIC by saying that protecting depositors also protected capitalism, but attacking capitalism's excesses by pitching small depositors to the wolves deserves little consideration.

I see Clinton's Glass-Steagall repeal, which let the gambling-addicts' banks use FDIC-insured deposits, as a gift to the gamblers.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 4, 2013 at 11:24am

CIA Drone Strikes in Pakistan 2004–2013
Casualty Estimates, The Bureau of Investigative Journalis

Living things exist as so much fodder for imperialism, cultures have no value to those who do not respect history, principles have no influence on decisions. The USA citizens pays for all this madness.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 4, 2013 at 1:37am

Grinning Cat,  "bailing out the individual account holders" makes a whole lot more sense to me! This experiment they tried proved to be a sham; why do they think they can get away with it again? 

 
 
 

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