Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Overton Window shifted toward burn everything down

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by tom sarbeck on Tuesday. 3 Replies

"Breitbart's whole goal was to burn everything down...and Trump has gone full Breitbart."Ben Shapiro ( former Breitbart editor-at-large,  who has become a vociferous critic)…Continue

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Bill Maher on Donald Trump

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by tom sarbeck Oct 15. 8 Replies

Bill Maher has spared nothing on his Real Time program in repeatedly eviscerating Drumpf in every last available way.  Those assessments are usually focused on one particular aspect of Drumpf's behavior or personality, but to borrow from…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 21, 2015 at 11:22pm

Tom, thanks for the book lead,  Petr Kropotkin, in Mutual Aid; a factor in evolution. I downloaded it. My goodness, he has a lot of references. It will be a fun one to read. 

Petr Kropotkin, in Mutual Aid; a factor in evolution

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 21, 2015 at 11:16pm


Comment by tom sarbeck on June 21, 2015 at 6:56pm

Which initiative, sk8eycat?

There were four in all, two each year.

In each of those two years, I was one of hundreds of voters who gathered voters' signatures to put an initiative on the ballot that would amend the Government Code to take out the bribery and extortion that legislators can do.

In each of those two years, the legislature put an initiative on the ballot that would enact a few reforms but let them continue the bribery and extortion.

In each of those two years, voters wanted reform and passed both initiatives. Enough voters still trusted the legislature and its initiatives got a few more votes than our initiatives. And so, the legislators continued the bribery and extortion.

We decided that if they would not change their practices we would change their faces.

And so our third initiative called for term limits. It's a simple idea and the legislature was unable to confuse voters with another initiative.  

We knew term limits was not the best idea, but the legislature twice screwed us. They earned term limits.

Those who want to stay in government for more than two terms now have to persuade different sets of voters to elect them.


Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on June 21, 2015 at 2:36pm

sk8eycat, I agree with you about Bernie's Israel stance.

Alan, I think you preference for less government is doomed. Climate Destabilization will probably force the world to experiment with global government out of desperation. Climate negotiations among nations is classic tragedy of the commons.

On another note:

Comment by sk8eycat on June 21, 2015 at 10:24am

That's what I mean.  They go from the Assembly to the state Senate, and back and forth to whatever other elective, or appointed job they can get.

I knew that effing initiative was an unfunny joke when it was first proposed, and campaigned against it.  Loudly.  It's a stupid idea.

Comment by tom sarbeck on June 21, 2015 at 3:47am

sk8eycat, term limits suck for at least two reasons. They take power from legislators and give it to bureaucrats. They end the terms of both honest legislators and dishonest legislators.

Many Californians wanted to take the bribery and extortion out of campaign financing and TWICE put propositions on the ballot that, if the voters approved them, would do that.

Both times, the legislature screwed all Californians. Do you know how they did it? Do you want to know?

The reformers, not wanting the legislature to screw voters a third time, put the easier-to-understand term limits on the ballot and they passed.

The California legislature earned term limits.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 21, 2015 at 12:59am

Term Limits: "Musical Chairs" for politicians. 

Comment by tom sarbeck on June 20, 2015 at 11:49pm

Alan, your list of solutions looks like that of a Libertarian.

sk8eycat, why in your opinion do term limits suck?

The legislature twice interfered with attempts by voters to reform campaign funding via initiatives. It earned the less desirable term limits.

Comment by Alan Perlman on June 20, 2015 at 3:00pm

Thanks, Ruth.  Candidates will make their message bland and promise all kinds of govt. goodies.  It'll be as exciting as a Student Council election.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 20, 2015 at 2:48pm

Ruth, I signed the petition yesterday.  My only problem with Bernie is his extreme support of Israel.  They can stand on their own feet now, and give the "settlements they have stolen back to to the Palestinians.

We've had term limits in CA-CA for decades.  They suck.



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