Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Judge blocks Trump wind-down of Dreamers program

Started by Joan Denoo Jan 9. 0 Replies

Judge blocks Trump wind-down of Dreamers programSan Francisco-based U.S. District Court judge William Alsup “blocked President…Continue

Tags: for, Childhood, Arrivals, DACA., Action

Judge blocks Trump wind-down of Dreamers program

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Jotham Timothy Bessey Jan 10. 1 Reply

Judge blocks Trump wind-down of Dreamers programSan Francisco-based U.S. District Court Judge William Alsup “blocked President…Continue

Tags: for, Childhood, Arrivals, DACA, Action

Religions beginnings

Started by Jotham Timothy Bessey. Last reply by Patricia Jan 10. 6 Replies

Hey, Who wants to start a new religion?While studying for my B.Sc. I had to take a course called natural disasters. I noticed that the biggest natural disasters coincided with the start of one of the major sects in Christianity.Pentecost was the…Continue

punishing doubt [cc] 1 & 2

Started by Joan Denoo Dec 28, 2017. 0 Replies

punishing doubt  1Parents, family, teachers, and friends sometimes experience doubt when questioning a loved one…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on January 5, 2018 at 11:43pm

Loren, I agree the bigger problem is the dolts that choose not to act against him. 

That is why we need to name the tyranny of religion as a harmful aspect of our nature and offer alternatives. 

Read Steve Wells, Drunk with Blood - God's Killings in the Bible. 

We don't need to name-call, accuse, or blame; we just point out the slavery, conquests, willingness to kill children in the name of their holy book. We can ask the tough questions as spelled out by Peter Boghossian, A Manual for Creating Atheists.

We only need to celebrate the absence of belief in deities. We can back up any and all our claims with evidence; we know the natural order of things and it does not include superstition, myths, fairy tales, or wishful thinking; we are competent in our knowledge and speak with confidence. 


Comment by Loren Miller on January 5, 2018 at 9:52pm

Joan, at this point, I'm not certain that Dolt 45 even CARES what fact or fiction are.  He just makes his assertions, figuring that no one will check them [cha, right!].  Thing is, a bigger problem than Drumpf are those who are riding his coattails and won't act against him.  For them, it's Party over Country, and unless that is confronted head-on, this country is in DEEP SHIT.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 5, 2018 at 9:26pm

In 347 days, President Trump has made 1,950 false and misleading cl...He appears to be unable to separate fact from fiction. 

Trump seems to not know how to look at crowds and know the difference between large and small crowds.

He appears to be unable to deal fairly with people who work for him.

He makes claims about bringing productions back to the U.S. which clearly are not true; outsourcing and robotics take away many living-wage jobs.

He maintains that he knows how to structure taxes in ways that benefit all, even as he takes away the safety net of workers and weakens their bargaining powers.

His foreign policy becomes visible based on who is the fastest of the most destructive weapons known t....  

He came into office by Electoral College, not by popular vote.

Trump is a puppet president.

Trumps opened territory for offshore drilling throughout U.S. coast... with an expected $15 billion in new federal revenue from drilling fees. We should be closing down fossil fuels and putting investments into alternative ...

If we expect to protect life as we know it, we have to be able to separate fact from fiction.

I don't trust Trump with my physical and financial well-being nor do I trust him as POTUS.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 4, 2018 at 7:09am

Cat, you hit the nail on the head regarding abortion. Here's an article I posted last month:

This is what abortion politics is for
Fred Clark

. . . That legal battle lasted from 1971 until it was lost, conclusively, in 1983, with the Supreme Court’s ruling in Bob Jones University v. United States.

But by then it didn’t matter, because by 1983, white evangelicals had found a new strategy to reclaim their rightful place as the standard-bearers of morality. That strategy was simply this: Change the subject.

Failing the clearest moral test of your time and culture is only a problem so long as that moral test is what people are talking about and thinking about. So talk about something else.

. . . And it worked. It worked so remarkably well that within another decade or so, the disgraced moral pariahs who had so thoroughly shamed themselves by failing the great moral test of the Civil Rights movement had been rebranded as “values voters” — the repository and safeguard of our national morality.

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 4, 2018 at 3:29am

Saz, I'm not on Facebook, but I'm comfortable here on AN. Several factors play into that:

  • People can choose to go by real names or pseudonyms here. In my case, I can share my handle with my friends, yet remain otherwise ungoogleable.
  • I'm not tempted to reveal all my contacts, interests, and likes to a for-profit corporation and its advertisers. What I write here isn't connected to my other interests on other sites.
  • AN is supported by donations. Facebook offers a "free" service, which turns its users into the product.

Chris, thanks for the information about the history of abortion. It rings true that '"protecting" women from the dangers of abortion was actually meant to control them and restrict them to their traditional child-bearing role. Antiabortion legislation was part of an antifeminist backlash'. (Look at "pro-life" advocates who claim an absolute sanctity of human life yet accept abortion in cases of rape or incest, while also working against access to contraception and to reality-based sex education that reduces pregnancy rates. It's not really about the precious zygote/​embryo/​fetus. It's about controlling women and denying them the choice of consenting to sex without a significant risk of having to carry an unwanted pregnancy.)

Bertold, as far as I'm concerned churches can have the benefits of other nonprofits as soon as they assume the obligations, including having to file Form 990 and be transparent about how much money they get and from whom, and where it goes.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 3, 2018 at 8:12am

Separation of what and what???

FEMA Expands Church Access to Disaster Funds

Daily Beast

  • The Federal Emergency Management Agency has changed language in its policy to make it easier for religious organizations to quality for disaster-relief funds. In September, President Trump suggested making the change in the midst of Hurricane Harvey relief efforts. “Churches in Texas should be entitled to reimbursement from FEMA Relief Funds for helping victims of Hurricane Harvey (just like others),” Trump tweeted at the time. FEMA has said it will remove language in its rules, which have often served to disqualify religious groups from receiving certain aid. FEMA Recovery Directorate Assistant Administrator Alex Amparo wrote in a new manual released Tuesday: “Private nonprofit houses of worship will not be singled out for disfavored treatment within the community centers subcategory of [Public Assistance] nonprofit applicants.” The revised policy made public Tuesday will be retroactive to cover damage incurred as early as August 2017.
Comment by Saz on January 1, 2018 at 11:07am

Thanks for inviting me Joan. As I signed up it occurred to me that instead of facebooking during downtime I could be here and maybe learn something. That'll be my new year's resolution, replace Facebook with Atheist Nexus. Thanks again.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on December 30, 2017 at 2:50am

Chris, thanks for the link to the history of abortion. IMO, it has to be a woman’s right to decide.

Comment by Chris on December 30, 2017 at 2:20am

Its unbelievable to me that there are still single issue voters such as 'pro-Life"

Jotham Timothy Bessey 

The History of abortion is interesting.

he following is an exclusive excerpt from the "Abortion" chapter of Our Bodies, Ourselves for the New Century. For complete information and resources, we recommend that you consult the chapter and the book in its entirety.


Over several centuries and in different cultures, there is a rich history of women helping each other to abort. Until the late 1800s, women healers in Western Europe and the U.S. provided abortions and trained other women to do so, without legal prohibitions.

The State didn't prohibit abortion until the 19th century, nor did the Church lead in this new repression. In 1803, Britain first passed antiabortion laws, which then became stricter throughout the century. The U.S. followed as individual states began to outlaw abortion. By 1880, most abortions were illegal in the U.S., except those ``necessary to save the life of the woman.'' But the tradition of women's right to early abortion was rooted in U.S. society by then; abortionists continued to practice openly with public support, and juries refused to convict them.

Abortion became a crime and a sin for several reasons. A trend of humanitarian reform in the mid-19th century broadened liberal support for criminalization, because at that time abortion was a dangerous procedure done with crude methods, few antiseptics, and high mortality rates. But this alone cannot explain the attack on abortion. For instance, other risky surgical techniques were considered necessary for people's health and welfare and were not prohibited. ``Protecting'' women from the dangers of abortion was actually meant to control them and restrict them to their traditional child-bearing role. Antiabortion legislation was part of an antifeminist backlash to the growing movements for suffrage, voluntary motherhood, and other women's rights in the 19th century. *For more information, see Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right, rev. ed. (New York: Penguin Books, 1990).

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Comment by Chris on December 30, 2017 at 2:14am

I may have spoken too soon about the Onion. I haven't read it for a  decade or more.

Americans apparently bow and prey about trickle up economic theory.

Ruth Anthony-Gardner yesterday

The Onion

GOP Leaders Celebrate Decisive Win Over Americans

"GOP leaders reportedly celebrated Wednesday their decisive win over everyday American citizens."



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