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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Trump Ordered Border Agents To Break The Law

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 14. 4 Replies

Trump Ordered Border Agents To Break The Law Why do church members not confront Trump on his separation of families?Why do they not challenge him when he refuses to disclose…Continue

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Private Jets

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Plinius Mar 12. 1 Reply

Private Jets are the paradigm of fossil fuel inequality and climate destruction.Donald Trump’s tax reform allowed individuals and companies to write off 100% of the cost of a new or used private jet against their federal taxes. For some plutocrats…Continue

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Satan is not the enemy of the people,

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Feb 27. 8 Replies

“The devil made me do it!” in the 1960s.~ Flip Wilson, Comedian.“Could it be . . . Satan?” in the 1980s.~ Dana Carver, Comedian, “Church Lady” on SNL. Child sexual predators are “tools of Satan.”~ Pope Francis.Is pope Francis joking? Child sexual…Continue

Christianity and Capitalism

Started by Joan Denoo Feb 18. 0 Replies

"It was the church more than any other agency, that put in place what Weber called the preconditions of capitalism:• the rule of law and a bureaucracy for resolving disputes rationally;• a specialized and mobile labor force;• the institutional…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on September 20, 2012 at 12:55pm

Louie Schwartzberg at Bioneers Conference 2011 - Moving Art™ -

Determination: Watching salmon struggling to master falling water to get to its spawning gravels, the tiny seeds sprouting to become massive trees, slime mold growing betwen cracks and over rocks, wood and vegetation, all attest to the determination to live and become part of this magnificent universe. 


Evolution: Knowing life, evolving from single cell organisms into vast varieties we know today, creating life as we know it. 

Vision: Understanding human beings, developing into bodies and minds for good and ill, have the capacity to protect and care for our planet, or to destroy life as we know it.
Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2012 at 11:25am

Greg, you give me bone to chew on when you wrote, "Occupy Wall ST was, to me, a better place for the 'in you face' aspects of interaction for (peaceful) change."
Will people who should read and hear the strident voice go to "Occupy"?Thanks for calling this option to my attention. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2012 at 11:17am

Richard Wolff - The Call For a New Capitalism

Wolff describes how our economic system developed, how it changed over time, and defines Booms and Busts. Capitalism creates great wealth and great poverty. Some don't wan't to recognize this but denying and deluding oneself does not change what is real. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2012 at 3:04am
Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2012 at 2:50am

GRATITUDE

I close down this evening with a beautiful piece of moving art with the theme of gratitude. I am so very grateful for each of you who have taken this torturous path of ideas and options and choices with me. We haven't changed the world, but perhaps we could hear each other, recognize our differences and respect each other and all that you bring to the discussion. 

Good night. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2012 at 2:33am

Chris, I imagine you had to learn some coping strategies very young to compensate for feelings about your parents. With your recent vision of a preferred future for you and your husband, you reveal it is possible to rise above the wounds and scars of growing up. 

Now, the next step, it seems to me, is to find little and big ways that bring you joy.  You inspire me!

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2012 at 2:18am

sk8eycat, your story and countless other women have been faced with their own version of that same challenge. They thoughtfully searched for options and explored ramifications for each option, coming to different conclusion, but the process continues. Faced with reality, most women think and feel their way to a solution that makes the most sense to them. I respect your journey. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2012 at 2:08am

Greg, I like what you said because I know it is true, people turn away from strident voices, whether in volume or ALL CAPS. You have always been a strong supporter of my efforts to increase public awareness of serious issues. 

That said, being calm, reasonable, gentle all need to happen, but for those of us who have walked the path out of sick thinking and trying to flourish as fully human, we noisy ones have a place in struggles for human rights.
Martin Luther King, Jr. had a soft voice that stressed peace, but behind him were the more militant one who revealed the numbers and intensity of anger and who demanded justice. 

Gandhi spoke in soft tones and temperament, but behind him were hundreds, if not thousands, of rebellious, angry crowds demanding to be heard. 

If people who suffer under the yoke of oppression and domination ask for permission to speak, or seek approval in what they say, nothing changes. How long did slavery last in this country? and racial discrimination? and how long have women had to struggle with bearing children and trying to figure out how to feed, house, and clothe them. 

Not all men are bad and irresponsible, thankfully; but all conceived children have a father, whether he intended to be a father or not. 

Greg, I just want to be sure you realize how helpful you have been for me over the months, maybe years, and I appreciate you greatly. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2012 at 1:33am

Yes, Robert, I am intolerant of intolerable beliefs. No reason for me to dodge that bullet. You probably haven't read some of my earlier stuff, but let me give you just one example. After working with battered children and women, and hearing the stories of hundreds through various jobs, I began to hear a theme: "yield, pray, obey, turn the other cheek, love him to the lord, crucify yourself daily in imitation of the crucified christ and rejoice in your crucifixion." I call that the "Passive Gospel". Faced with challenges of family violence, many women and children have turned to the church community for help and the most common theme they hear is the Passive Gospel. It is sick, dysfunctional, harmful and leaves scars far too deep to understand how seriously they have been hurt until experiencing a lot of pain, guilt, shame and anguish. Why not just stop it at the source and call those dreadful words stupid, ignorant, and unnecessarily harmful. 

Do ALL religious believe such silly nonsense? I don't know, I don't hear anyone objecting to them even when they come from the pulpit and lectern. 

One nice thing about having a reputation of an angry old woman, I don't have to play games or pretend to be something that I am not. 

Comment by Plinius on September 19, 2012 at 1:21am

Nobody is pro abortion - pro choice, yes.   I was an unwanted child and decided at an early age that I wouldn't force another person to go through childhood. And I made sure of it too, got a sterilization before I was 30 and never regretted my decision. I'm not bad or worthless, but rather heavily scarred by hypocritical fundie parents. The best thing we can do is teach the children everything about sex, children, the ways to prevent pregnancy and all about life. They'll work it out for themselves. 

 
 
 

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