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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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#Quora: Nate White Hilariously Answers the Query –”Why Do British People NOT Like Trump?”

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 7. 3 Replies

Nate White, a witty writer from England wrote the perfect response. A few things spring to mind… Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no…Continue

Tags: troll, Quora, Donald Trump, Nate White

Dan Rather and Sam Donaldson on Trump

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Oct 24. 1 Reply

I just saw this on CNN and thought it was worthy of being posted here.  You have two doyen newsmen who know their stuff, opining on the aberration in the White House for two minutes and change.  Just wish it were longer. Unfortunately, I can't get…Continue

Tags: Trump, CBS, ABC, Sam Donaldson, Dan Rather

Democratic National Committee Recognizes Value of "Religiously Unaffiliated Demographic"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 4. 2 Replies

It started back in 2009, when Barack Obama made open mention of non-believers in his first inaugural address.  It got better with the establishment of the Congressional Freethought Caucus.  And now, the Democratic National Committee has issued a…Continue

Tags: resolution, Religiously Unaffiliated Demographic, DNC, Democratic National Committee

ALEC ties to White Supremacy and religious extremism

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 20. 7 Replies

ALEC,or the American Legislative Exchange Council, pushes conservative legislation, and nearly a quarter of state legislators are members. Their model bills often "amount to wish lists for special interests." "Bills based on ALEC models were…Continue

Tags: religious extremism, White Supremacy, American Legislative Exchange Council

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Comment by Chris on July 19, 2019 at 9:46pm

The guy Jon Crowder  who broke both elbows as I understand it received $30 K.

That wouldn't have paid for his hospital bills.  More than likely the gentleman who had both elbows broken likely will suffer pain his entire life and likely would not be able to use his arms effectively again.

Jon Crowder based on the two previous videos should be in prison for the rest of his life.

Is Crowder a meth head?

Comment by Chris on July 19, 2019 at 9:40pm

More on Jon Crowder.

Comment by Chris on July 19, 2019 at 9:21pm

Watch this police video.  You can hear both the capured persons elbows breaking.

Regarding Eric Gardner the policman who put him in a choke hold broke his hyoid bone.

I don't believe the Asthma claim from the ME.

Comment by Cane Kostovski on July 14, 2019 at 8:18pm

Donald, unsavory jobs will be mostly done by robots. Even if the robots need people to guide them, the people can be in air conditioned cars/campers. You forgot to mention sanitation workers who smell sewage all day. As a group of mechanical engineers teamed with computer programmers and other needed members that care about the plight of the sanitation workers would work hard not for money, but to make relieve the sanitation worker from the worst of his/her job. Also, you seem to NOT be aware of the scientific study that was done to prove that a raise in pay equaled a raise in productivity. It was NOT money that raised productivity, but a satisfaction of a job well done. I hear you and feel you may be right, but hope beyond all hope that you are not 100% right.

About communism, the communists used money as an incentive and science proved that doesn't work. In RBE, there is NO money to be had. It doesn't work that way. Look at the opensource software developers. They do most of their work for free or very little money. They do it for the satisfaction of doing a job well done. And guess what, they number in the millions. And that is just software.

To paraphrase you: Donald, you are only thinking of the hard, smelly jobs.

Comment by Donald L. Engel on July 14, 2019 at 7:45pm

Cane,  You're only thinking of nice, easy, jobs in a comfortable setting.  I was in town yesterday, and they were working in the hot sun paving the road after they dug it up for the gas line.  Further down the road they were tearing up the road to add to the gas line.  They were not comfortable by any stretch of the imagination,  Do you think they would have been there working in the hot sun if they could have gone down to the distribution center for some free food and a cold beer?  There are a lot of jobs that people work at that the only reason they're doing that work is because it pays more than the average job.  If people can get free food, they will not work at those jobs.  I cannot tell you what literature I read, but one article mentioned about the East European countries that got out from under the yoke of communism.  One of the people that was quoted said that the economy was sluggish because they got paid no matter how hard they worked, so they didn't work that hard, and nothing got done.

Comment by Cane Kostovski on July 14, 2019 at 7:27pm

Donald and Joan. The OLD generation may have 10% who cannot or will not work, but there will be 90% willing to work for free but at a job they can handle. That leaves the younger generation 95% of whom will do what is necessary but at jobs they prefer so that they get satisfaction from what they produce. I feel that it is doable with today's technology. Most people will get bored just sitting at home when they could feel fulfillment doing their part. 

Donald, Why such a negative view? Are MOST people you know that lazy? Or are they that tormented by the capitalistic system that anything new is just bullshit? I think that my estimates are conservative, but you feel NOBODY would produce. Why is that?

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 14, 2019 at 12:52am

Imagine you are on an island with 100 people. 10% are too young, too old, or too infirm to produce. That leaves 90% to have babies, take care of those unable to produce. Of that 90%, imagine 45% work to grow the food, build the homes and building, conduct the businesses necessary in modern commerce, and the services of medical care, the legal profession, schools, and whatever else the community needs. Suppose of that 45 % are able to work to produce, 5% are not willing to work. That group wants to play games, gamble, watch TV, drive fancy and fast cars and boats and produces nothing but waste products that pollute the air, soils, and water. 

Are those who work to produce goods and services others can use in modern life meant to accept those who are able and not willing to work? What obligation does the producer have to provide the needs of the playboy/girl?

Comment by Donald L. Engel on July 14, 2019 at 12:11am

It wouldn't work, Cane.  Under this system no one would work to produce anything.  If I can just walk down to the distribution center and get what I want, why not stay hone and watch movies on TV until I need something?  When I do, I'll just walk down after the movie and get what I want.  Where is the incentive to produce?

Comment by Cane Kostovski on July 13, 2019 at 6:34pm

Joan, you're thinking about RBE incorrectly. There will NOT be any payment, any charge, any commerce. Just AIs directing supply to where the demand is. Most cities will have skyscrapers utilized as hydroponic farms, so most of the food will be grown locally. If you want a banana, you just go to the distribution station and get as many as you want. The banana grower did it as a volunteer and if he needs ANYTHING, he goes to his distribution station and takes what he needs. EVERYONE will get what they need and some if not all of what they want.

Communists still used capitalism in the form of money. RBE does away with money, so the idea of theft is mute under RBE. RBE is a form of socialism but that is its power to overcome capitalism and ALL of capitalism's shortcomings. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 12, 2019 at 11:37pm

Cane, I think you understand the benefits of RBE even as you may not be aware of the risks in the failures of the system. Even in RBE, exploiters and manipulators can torpedo the intent of the idea. There are several outstanding examples of successful  RBEs, but it requires that the members pay attention to the management. Members can't sit back and let others take charge. 

To end poverty, hunger, debt, and human suffering requires a free-flow of accurate information, and members paying attention to the management. Prevention of theft is only one of the problems.  

The system is the same as "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs," a slogan popularised by Karl Marx in 1875. The principle refers to free access to and distribution of goods, capital, and services.

What if I want to eat bananas? Who pays for the shipping? Does a shipper expect to recover the costs of transport and how will that transaction take place? 

RBE offers a naive way of perceiving commerce. 

Indeed, the Communists did not find a way to make it work, and they created a vast inequality in the trying. 

 
 
 

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