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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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A Humanist Statement on Separating Families at the US Border

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia 4 hours ago. 5 Replies

Washington, D.C., June 22, 2018)—The Board of Directors of the American Humanist Association has issued the following statement:The American Humanist Association condemns in the…Continue

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Reps. Huffman, Raskin, McNerney, & Kildee Launch Congressional Freethought Caucus (Congressman Jared Huffman)

Started by Loren Miller May 7. 0 Replies

Washington, D.C.- Representatives Jared Huffman (D-CA), Jamie Raskin (D-MD), Jerry McNerney (D-CA), and Dan Kildee (D-MI) announced the launch of the Congressional Freethought Caucus to promote sound public policy based on reason, science, and moral…Continue

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Comment by Tom Sarbeck on May 18, 2018 at 4:34pm

And thank you, Loren.

Krauss et al are easy; they have words but no evidence.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 18, 2018 at 2:39pm

Precisely, Joseph (and thanks for the vote of confidence).  I can't help noticing that Tom still doesn't want to engage those who actually KNOW something about the topic, as I have repeatedly challenged him to.  Apparently, he's rather direct ad hominems at me than grasp the nettle.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on May 18, 2018 at 1:59pm

Thank you, Joseph.

Comment by Joseph P on May 18, 2018 at 1:56pm

No, he just knows better than to accept the ravings of a person who's the astrophysical equivalent of a 9/11 Truther.

And don't start that bullshit, accusing someone of being religious, unless you can substantiate it.  It's one of the most disgusting things I see within the atheist community.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on May 18, 2018 at 1:42pm

Loren, you quit a religion but did not quit faith.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 18, 2018 at 12:05pm

Honestly, Tom, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT if you want to tell me about it.  Unless you are willing to throw it down with NASA and the cosmologists who are most expert in the Big Bang, you have absolutely nothing to say to me that I'm interested in hearing.  My opinion doesn't matter.  Theirs does.

Put up or shut up.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on May 18, 2018 at 11:44am

Loren, if you will check the data being returned by recent space probes, you will see the BB being falsified.

Even NASA’s managers for comet-bound probes are admitting their dismay. RIP the dusty snowball hypothesis.

For instance, go to youtube dot com and check the data the Rosetta mission returned.

Comment by Patricia on May 17, 2018 at 7:07pm

Thanks Loren.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 17, 2018 at 6:52pm

Tom, your accusations regarding the Big Bang versus the electric universe have grown tiresome to the point where I have to speak out about it. You're basically saying that the likes of Lawrence Krauss, Sean Carroll, and the late Stephen Hawking, among likely thousands of other physicists, have been bought off and that they have no integrity in the face of government funding. I say you've given us no hard evidence to that effect and that you are libeling them with these statements. Krauss himself has stated on more than one occasion that he sees enormous worth in being proved wrong, and I have little doubt that his own work has experienced that over his career. You've just told him that he is being duplicitous for the sake of money. I would call that a serious charge ... and my question to you is simple: are you willing to make it to his face? You've been going on around A|N, yapping about it, which has about as much impact as a hole in the head. None of us, you included, knows a fraction of what Krauss and his fellows understand about how the universe works, and you're wasting your time trying to convince US. THEY are the ones that matter. Either you make your case to THEM, to those who actually KNOW something about cosmology or you can do us all a favor and take your obsession elsewhere.

Personally, I've had enough ... and I'm fairly certain that I'm not alone.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2018 at 4:18pm

Tom, I know you don't tell people "I told you so!" even if you have every right to do so. You correctly identify my stand, I "accept what self-proclaimed authorities say!" If I lived in the days of the Flath Earth people, I would be listening and watching very carefully as the evidence became obvious, the Earth is round. I assume a lot of us exist; we are paying attention; we have a toe in the water! 

I don't accept the "extraterrestrials" but I am looking and listening.

I don't accept the "artificial intelligence" thing either, but after spending the winter with Craig, anything is possible.

I don't accept the "biblical apocalypse" but I do think the U.S.A. is a failing state and capitalism is failing worldwide.  

I understand there are four fundamental interactions in nature:

1. Weak interaction

2. Strong interaction

3. Gravity

4. Electromagnetism

When we get into electromagnetism, quantum mechanics provides an explanation, although crazy and wildly imaginative, that I think I understand. NO! 

"If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics."

~ attributed to Richard Feynman, although no evidence can be found. 

"If you can fathom quantum mechanics without getting dizzy, you don't get it"

~ attributed to Niels Bohr   

 
 
 

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