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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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'Trump's Katrina?' No, it's much worse (Juliette Kayyem - CNN)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 2. 5 Replies

It is a difficult task to turn the memory of Hurricane Katrina into a quaint story of well-meaning government actors unable to save a city from destruction. President Donald Trump managed to do that on Saturday morning when he essentially blamed…Continue

Tags: Juliette Kayyem, CNN, tragedy, Puerto Rico, Donald Trump

Trump, America's First White President

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 30. 1 Reply

[reposting from the group "Conversations on Race, Ethnicity, and Culture", which will be was cleared and closed October 1.]Trump, America's first white presidentSo writes…Continue

Tags: race, racism, systemic racism, endemic racism, class

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Comment by tom sarbeck on July 29, 2017 at 4:57pm
Thomas:
First, your desire to silence Trump results from your distrust of the people who hear him.
Second, who will silence him, and how will they do it?
And third, if he were silenced, who will know how big a fool he is and vote against his GOP enablers?
Comment by Joan Denoo on July 29, 2017 at 4:55pm

tRump is dragging out nation, our culture into the sewer. Illiterate, uneducated, frustrated, angry people love his character and his remarks to the police were just plain barbarian. He will soon find that people who were cooperating with each other, start getting frustrated, start calling names, start throwing punches and others observe and take sides. Before you know it we have the Hatfields & McCoys

Given that we have a narcissistic, manipulator, exploiter, lying, personality as POTUS, what can we do?

Jeez! I don't know!

tRump supporters are not stupid. Enough of them will be negatively impacted by his behavior, perhaps they will turn away from supporting him. 

I can't imagine anyone who opposed him before will support him now. 

Perhaps we can get some clews about how to think and act from  Dr. Peter Boghossian: Changing Minds. His strategy does not work for everyone, however, it is a starting place. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 29, 2017 at 4:26pm

Thomas, are you sure you want to start banning speach? What will happen is, you and I will be ones to be banned. 

Comment by Thomas Murray on July 29, 2017 at 2:35pm

   Trump continues to drag America down into degrading swamp with his public speeches and I am embarrassed and disgusted that the whole world is watching this fucktard spew his shit. I think everyone now know about his recent diatribe of giving police officers the go ahead to use excessive force against people. Did Trump conveniently forget what happened in Baltimore or Cleveland and other places? Is Congress (GOP) an enabler because they wont tell him to shut the hell up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/international-police-chief-asso...

   So my question is, since Congress (GOP) wont impeach him, can a president in office be banned from giving anymore public speeches?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 28, 2017 at 2:48pm

A good article in WAPO by Jennifer Rubin

As Trump debases the presidency, the religious right looks away

The Trump administration is a clown show — but it’s the evangelicals who supplied the tent, the red noses and the floppy shoes. Each day presents a new insult to the office of the presidency and a repudiation of civilized behavior.
. . . And if it gets worse, is there any point at which the religious might put country above tribe, morality above partisanship? No, I don’t think it will do so ever.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 27, 2017 at 12:29pm

Yet another WTF moment

Trump taps Brownback for ambassadorship focused on religious freedom

Kansas City Star

Huh?

As Charles Pierce asked, But, seriously, Ambassador At Large For Religious Freedom? How is that even a job under a secular Constitution? .  .  .  Are we going to have Ambassadors to all First Amendment freedoms? Because I'd really like to be Ambassador At Large For Press Freedom. How about the whole Bill of Rights?

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 21, 2017 at 2:59pm

Oh, I forgot "The Pledge of Allegiance" every morning in school.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 21, 2017 at 2:54pm

During my walks in the last few weeks, I've been struck by how many US flags are flying on many houses.  I think a lot of them started flying on the fourth of July, but are still up.  This is a Mormon town, and I suspect most of those flags are on Mormon homes.

It reminded me of how I was raised in the Moron church.  Patriotism was big.  Fly the flag on holidays.  Put your hand over your heart when the flag goes by in a parade.  Stand when you hear The Start Spangled Banner.

Then there was the 12th Article of Faith by Joseph Smith:  "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring and sustaining the law."  Of course he often disobeyed that article, because he wanted to be the president of the US, with an eye towards being the dictator of the US, and then the world.

As I became older, I usually flew the flag on holidays, and did the other patriotic things, almost to the tune of "My country, right or wrong."  

Since paying attention to the posts on Atheist Nexus, I'm now critical of the USA.  My attitude now is  "I'll think about being patriotic, when and if the USA becomes worthy of patriotism."

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2017 at 4:30pm

Does this feel as though the McCarthy is back? Remember how it felt to speak in opposition to the leadership? 

Yes, the Palestinians have a case against Israel.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 20, 2017 at 2:49pm

Anyone feel sympathetic toward Palestinians? Better watch how you express that. From The Intercept:

U.S. Lawmakers Seek to Criminally Outlaw Support for Boycott Campaign Against Israel

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THE CRIMINALIZATION OF political speech and activism against Israel has become one of the gravest threats to free speech in the West. In France, activists have been arrested and prosecuted for wearing T-shirts advocating a boycott of Israel. The U.K. has enacted a series of measures designed to outlaw such activism. In the U.S., governors compete with one another over who can implement the most extreme regulations to bar businesses from participating in any boycotts aimed even at Israeli settlements, which the world regards as illegal. On U.S. campuses, punishment of pro-Palestinian students for expressing criticisms of Israel is so commonplace that the Center for Constitutional Rights refers to it as “the Palestine Exception” to free speech.

But now, a group of 43 senators — 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats — wants to implement a law that would make it a felony for Americans to support the international boycott against Israel, which was launched in protest of that country’s decades-old occupation of Palestine. The two primary sponsors of the bill are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.

 
 
 

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