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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Michael Hudson: How Private Debt Makes the Rich Richer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joseph P on Friday. 4 Replies

Michael Hudson: How Private Debt Makes the Rich RicherMichael Hudson talks about the causes of inequality in the 21st century. He  summarizes the important theses from his new book "The Sector - Why Global Finance Is Destroying Us". for a symposium…Continue

Tags: capitalism, global, poverty, inequality, debt

Meet the Renegades Steve Keen

Started by Joan Denoo Dec 1. 0 Replies

Meet the Renegades Steve KeenSteve Keen’s, one of the very few economists, globally, perfectly predicted the 2007-08 financial crisis. Recently he predicted the Chinese economic downturn and the deflation…Continue

Tags: banks, lending, speculation, investment, crisis

Tomgram: Rebecca Gordon, No "New Normal"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 21. 2 Replies

Tomgram: Rebecca Gordon, No "New Normal" *We have a * President-elect with enough electoral college votes to be POTUS with an …Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on September 20, 2016 at 6:44pm

Grinning Cat, I read that post and by the end of it I intended to look up Brian Bilston and tell him what I think has happened and why and what needs to happen, with a few "My Goodnesses!" thrown in for emphasis.

Then I read, "(now read from bottom to top)" and I realized I did not need to give my lecture, he knows what we need to start thinking and why it is in our best interest to do. Well, he didn't name many specific things we simply have to do, but he wrote enough to know we need fundamental changes

OK, brainstorming now: 

*Speak out when we hear blaming and scapegoating; 

*A person born in a particular country may be a citizen of that country. However, he or she is also a human who may have potential. Is he or she poor because they are not ambitious or because they lack opportunity?

*Why are people running from their birthplaces? Because of war, injustices, little chance, fear/or disgust of corrupt leadership?

*Stop building walls, put an end to wars and violence; 

*Make work projects of repairing the war damages, including the health of the people who would flee, rebuild homes, businesses, and infrastructure of each community.  

*Require workers be paid a living wage, with the intent of a home in every family and "a chicken in every pot"; I know this statement is a fallacy because it promises and does not demonstrate how to pull it off or provide an opportunity to create their food forests.  If we need to repair all those homes, start food plots at every residence, teach people how to grow their vegetables and fruits and proteins it will get people involved in building their futures.   

*Realize that each of us could have been born into a family and place that did not provide they inquiring mind and how to think of alternatives that might work. 

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on September 20, 2016 at 6:06pm
Effect of cellphone polling on last presidential election. Big factor and demographic effect.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/obamas-lead-loo...
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on September 20, 2016 at 5:51pm

Nice, GC - thanx for posting.

Comment by Grinning Cat on September 20, 2016 at 5:32pm

(Maybe this should go in "Pathways for taking in refugees?"... but it's broadly applicable here too.)

Refugees

They have no need of our help
So do not tell me
These haggard faces could belong to you or me
Should life have dealt a different hand
We need to see them for who they really are
Chancers and scroungers
Layabouts and loungers
With bombs up their sleeves
Cut-throats and thieves
They are not
Welcome here
We should make them
Go back to where they came from
They cannot
Share our food
Share our homes
Share our countries
Instead let us
Build a wall to keep them out
It is not okay to say
These are people just like us
A place should only belong to those who are born there
Do not be so stupid to think that
The world can be looked at another way

(now read from bottom to top)

(Brian Bilston)

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on August 29, 2016 at 11:17am
We need to wake up to propaganda.

Hear,Hear!

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 28, 2016 at 11:00pm

@Bertold, I like Ruth's suggestion to start a discussion  in Media Issues. We need to wake up to propaganda. Here would be an excellent place to start. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on August 28, 2016 at 10:19pm

Bertold, that's a scary article! I sure hope that's not all that we are. This really deserves a discussion, perhaps one in Media Issues. You should consider joining that group. You have much to add. These points hit home for me.

...Trump understands how Americans actually think. They think TV. They think ratings. They think entertainment. We are a TV-based culture.

We have been watching reality TV shows. That is what we love. That is what we resonate to. “The Real Housewives of Atlanta.”

We are TV culture. It defines who we are.

Today, political conventions are nothing but carefully directed TV shows. Likewise “debates.” They exist only to entertain a TV audience. TV and  entertainment now dictate everything political. It is a never-ending show. The biggest reality show on air.

And Donald Trump is great TV.

He knows how to entertain.

Hillary Clinton is crap TV.

She may be smarter, better prepared, a better politician. It won’t matter. She is terrible entertainment.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 28, 2016 at 9:56pm

I feel a lot better after this lengthy discussion. I am clearer on what I believe and don't. The foundation upon which stand feels more stable.

Comment by tom sarbeck on August 28, 2016 at 6:30pm

     Libertarianism does not fill the gaps.

Joan, as I'm sure you know, libertarianism and natural selection don't care. Only people care.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 28, 2016 at 1:09pm

I agree with you, Joseph, when you wrote, “Some of these people living in poverty don't have the foundational education, having grown up in poverty with a horrible home life.  Some simply don't have the raw intellect.  Many people end up in horrible circumstances, at no fault of their own”

I think I can be classified as having grown up in a dysfunctional home and I confess to running away to marriage thinking I was going to escape free of the bonds that bound me to family violence. Once I realized I was caught in the same trap as my mother and both grandmothers, at 37-years old I ran again except this time I ran toward self-sufficiency. I am so grateful I did. A lot of people get caught in such traps. 

When I returned to college it was easy to get grants and scholarships so I was able to pay off my education to the master’s level in a couple of years. That is not possible now. 

I had three 10-year olds to feed when I ran so I also did a lot of strategic planning, i.e. I grew a huge garden out of a piece of land that was pure weeds. I went to our local mom and pop grocery and told them what I was doing to support myself and asked if there were any way I could get protein and dairy at a cheaper price. They agreed I could scavenge in their back room and take outdated meat and dairy at $1.00 a box. I took advantage of that for one year and I have been a full paying customer ever since, 42 years ago. 

I was in error when I liked the idea of Penn’s and libertarianism. Housing, food, health care, transportation, and education, when left to the market, creates, maintains, and perpetuates poverty. It is in the national interest to provide stability and opportunity to low-income people. 

The present economy with such skyrocketing prices leaves more people behind. Libertarianism does not fill the gaps. We need a fundamental change in our politics, economics, education and a lot of other things. 

I would include in that fundamental change is to give up superstition and mythology as guiding principles. 

 
 
 

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