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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 7, 2014 at 1:03pm

@James - NIetzsche did also warn us against blindly giving to science the same kind of worship we formerly gave to religion. He definitely harbored no thought that rationality in and of itself is sufficient to guide the species into an ideal future.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2014 at 2:31am

James, I wrote a response to your comment on Thursday: "Joan didn't Eisler write a book about sexual politics in pagan pasts."

Her first book, Chalice and the Blade powerfully stated the role of dominator cultures clutching control of the society, using religion as a tool to enforce their dogma. 

She has a personal history about her beginning her search to understand the Nazis phenomena: 

Chalice or the Blade Preview

She also wrote an insightful book, Sacred Pleasure: Sex, Myth, and the Politics of the Body--New Paths...

She writes of a paradigm shift of new ways of being in a relationship, the value to individuals and society. 

The Power of Partnership

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2014 at 2:16am

The New Prometheus, the scientist, rejecting god and submission to any domineering element in life. What was the famous quote? 

I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.

J. Robert Oppenheimer

Yes, destroyer of worlds is one possibility. Is it not also possible for the New Prometheus to be life-giving, nurturing, invigorating, enriching? I know the powerful will defeat the gentle in the physical sense of the word. Would not emotional strength have some influence on the outcome? Courage, stamina, sustaining, determination, endurance, energy, will, drive, vision, persistence count for something? 


Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jrobertop101189.html#ug8...

Comment by James M. Martin on December 6, 2014 at 9:01pm
Finally, Joan, consider also that Percy Bysshe, her husband, was throttled out of the family home by his irate father upon the patriarch's learning his son was an atheist. Some of that had to have influenced Mary.
Comment by James M. Martin on December 6, 2014 at 8:57pm

Not to forget, Joan, Ms. Well Stoned Crafty subtitled the book, "The New Prometheus." Now, I know this was with reference to Dr. Frankenstein himself. He represents to me, not God creating woman but a man of science playing God. He is Faust. He is Christopher Marlowe. When we throw off the shackles of dogma and follow science we become our own Gods. That was Nietzsche's point as well.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 4, 2014 at 5:08pm

Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley wrote Frankenstein, of a Dr. Frankenstenein who created a monster from body parts dug from graves. When the monster came to life, the good doctor hated his creation and spent the rest of his life attempting to destroy the ugly beast. 

This story is Shelley's metaphor for god creating woman, hating her and attempting to destroy her as some kind of a dreadful creature. 

God, created in the minds of man, exists as an instrument of hate and destruction! Biblical fables and myths reflect feelings of entitlement for a chosen people and the destruction of all humans who are different than their prescribed notions. They are willing and able to use whatever means necessary to gain those entitlements. 

That is what we observe today in the conflict between Israel over Palestine, between whites over blacks, between heterosexuals over homosexuals. People who believe they have superiority over other humans, who define people who are different by race, language, culture, gender, and class use whatever means necessary to achieve their ends. 

We see in the financial markets with the machinations of wealth and power, creating a widening gap between rich and poor. 

Religion, used to educate for hierarchical systems, employ unfair, unjust, immoral, unethical means to achieve their end. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on December 4, 2014 at 12:04pm

Joan, the corollary to that toxic message that women should learn in church "in silence", not even saying "amen" to agree with the preacher, is that evidently the men are thinking with their dicks. That would explain a lot.

(And Bertold, any god who supposedly created queer people, yet wishes us dead, would be a psychopathic jerk, utterly unworthy of respect or worship.)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 4, 2014 at 10:01am

This guy's a real charmer. Women STFU and queers die - the message of the god of love. Oh, wait, that's Venus.

Comment by James M. Martin on December 4, 2014 at 8:08am

@Joan didn't Eisler write a book about sexual politics in pagan pasts. I seem to recall reading or at least consulting (for research on a particular topic) a book she wrote. Just makes common sense that improvement in the life of one benefits the life of the other sex. Shame so many in power cannot see that, frozen as they are in writings from unknown sources anywhere from the 5th century BCE to the 1s century CE. {sigh}

Comment by Plinius on December 4, 2014 at 1:49am

O lovely! What a loving religion! What will they do after killing the LGBT people? Reminds me of an old poem:

„Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.“[

Martin Niemöller

When the Nazis hunted communists, I said nothing, because I was no communist,

And when they locked up the social democrats, I said nothing, because I was no social democrat,

And when they came for the trade unionists, I said nothing, because I was no trade unionist,

When they came for me, there was no one left who could speak up.

 
 
 

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