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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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The Common Thread Among Trump Supporters? (Matthew MacWilliams - Politico)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat 11 hours ago. 37 Replies

If I asked you what most defines Donald Trump supporters, what would you say? They’re white? They’re poor? They’re uneducated? You’d be wrong. In fact, I’ve found a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports…Continue

Tags: Politico, Donald Trump, authoritarianism

Tom Monaghan, Ave Maria, Florida, and Religious Totalitarianism

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by tom sarbeck Jan 17. 12 Replies

Like many of you, I have an email subscription to The Daily Kos, a liberal-leaning news and op-ed source which I frequently find both entertaining and frequently informative.  This morning I got their email distribution of links to various articles,…Continue

Tags: University, Daily Kos, Florida, Ave Maria, Domino's Pizza

The Brutalism of Ted Cruz (NY Times)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo 21 hours ago. 15 Replies

In 1997, Michael Wayne Haley was arrested after stealing a calculator from Walmart. This was a crime that merited a maximum two-year prison term. But prosecutors incorrectly applied a habitual offender law. Neither the judge nor the defense lawyer…Continue

Tags: GOP, Michael Wayne Haley, party, Republican, Donald Trump

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Comment by Loren Miller on July 16, 2015 at 8:29am

Chris, my first rule for a long time has been: "Put Yourself FIRST."  I say this because:

  • If you don't do it, no one else necessarily will.
  • If you wish to give of yourself, you have to have something TO give!
  • If you give without regard to yourself, you can run out of yourself!

Certainly, there's a balance to be found, but Step One has to be understanding one's own needs and prioritizing them as necessary to maintain whatever balance works for that person.

If that makes me selfish, then I'm selfish.

Comment by Plinius on July 16, 2015 at 8:10am

Churches want you to ´love another person as you love yourself´, but they teach you to hate and neglect yourself.... not funny.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 16, 2015 at 7:20am

@ Tom - concomitant with the notion that choices in one's own interest are "selfish," the Pope in a recent speech made reference to "the bondage of individualism." Can't have people actually being themselves - that would never do!

Comment by tom sarbeck on July 16, 2015 at 5:14am

Joan, you are right when you say "[t]there is no need to feel shame or regret if a woman knows she does not want to raise children.

But in the Catholic schools I went to in the 1940s, nuns and priests put a lot of effort into creating guilt in both girls and boys. They used the word "selfish" more than any other.

In my sister's class two years ahead of me, a boy was an only child AND his mother was the only divorced woman in that mainly Catholic suburb of Cincinnati. I heard words worse than "selfish" about her.

I heard nothing about her from my "silent as stones" parents. I grew up not having heard gossip and not engaging in it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 16, 2015 at 3:41am

Chris! I know the awful things that women had to endure in order to be healthy. We have come a long way and still have some challenges ahead of us. The good news, we are capable, competent and comfortable in our skins. We need no father, husband, son, priest, or potentate to dictate out decisions. 

Comment by Plinius on July 16, 2015 at 2:44am

Thanks Joan! I had my tubes tied before I was 30, despite the stupidity of medical staff. (Does your husband allow this?) (You'll be back next year to have this undone!)  

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 16, 2015 at 2:24am

There is no need to feel shame or regret if a woman knows she does not want to raise children. She has every right to make that decision, based on what is best for her. I have seen far too many women who did not want to be a mother and who did not have a patience or interest in mothering and who had unwanted children No one benefits by an unwanted child. Certainly, not the child. 

A woman's wishes and needs trump any religious dogma or social expectation. I respect a woman who knows herself well enough to not allow herself to get caught in a trap for which she knows she is not well suite.

I have the utmost respect for both of you, Felaine and Chris. You had wisdom and self-awareness at an early age, when to do so meant going against some people's norms. We need more women who can think independently. Each woman is responsible for taking care of her own body.  

Comment by Plinius on July 16, 2015 at 12:52am

Same for me Felaine.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 15, 2015 at 7:07pm

I knew by the time I was 13 that I never wanted to have children, so I didn't.  I had 3 abortions before The Pill was available, and before Roe v. Wade, and I have NEVER regretted it or felt ashamed. 

I would have been a lousy mother, and have never hesitated to tell people so.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 15, 2015 at 1:11pm

Abortion is a nasty subject and one difficult to discuss without getting emotionally tangled. Those who oppose abortion have every right not to have an abortion. Those who have compassion for women know that abortion is not only an option, it is a necessary part of health care. If males developed a growth of some kind because of sexual intercourse, there would be a necessary law to protect the end of the growth. A fetus is a growth of cells that ultimately forms into a human. Women have the right to say "NO" to sexual intercourse, or use some form of contraceptive, or choose to abort. Women know they terminate a pregnancy and that is their right. It is also their burden. Fathers of aborted pregnancies have no say in the matter because they have no right to interfere with mother's rights. 

OH! I know! I will get hate mail for my position. Hate mail goes into the garbage bin.

A debate, on the other hand,  offers the opportunity to discuss both sides. I am able and willing to take on the topic. 

Thanks, Bertold, for the link. 

 
 
 

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