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Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Widening Inequality Combined with Modest Growth

Started by Joan Denoo 12 hours ago. 0 Replies

"The author, Benjamin M. Friedman, argues that inequality, combined with only modest growth, can have grave moral consequences. History suggests that, in the past, a rising standard of living has promoted tolerance for others, commitment to economic…Continue

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Are Republicans quashing protest in order to establish a police state?

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat on Saturday. 2 Replies

A dangerous and disturbing trend:Republican lawmakers at the state level—often with the backing of police unions ... in at least 11 states ... have either introduced or threatened to introduce bills that make it more dangerous or costly to attend…Continue

Tags: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, police state, Republican Party, GOP

Things to thank the current Republican president* for

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat on Friday. 4 Replies

[Written by Susan Keller; shared more than 29,000 30,000 times on Facebook.]I can't believe I'm saying this, but it looks like Trump is actually making…Continue

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GET READY FOR THE FIRST SHOCKS OF TRUMP’S DISASTER CAPITALISM Naomi Klein January 24 2017

Started by Joan Denoo on Thursday. 0 Replies

WE ALREADY KNOW that the Trump administration plans to deregulate markets, wage all-out war on “radical Islamic terrorism,” trash climate science and unleash a fossil-fuel frenzy. It’s a vision that can be counted on to generate a tsunami of crises…Continue

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Comment by Joseph P on December 18, 2016 at 12:40pm

No worries.  I got sort of what you meant.

There are people who lock themselves into an echo-chamber and don't realize that they've done so.  So, they get the impression that everyone knows that Hillary Clinton is a treasonous spy who deliberately e-mailed state secrets to the Muslim Brotherhood and helped found ISIS/ISIL.  And there must be something wrong with the 5% of people who don't accept that well-established fact.

The liberal side locks themselves into echo-chambers sometimes, too.  "Safe spaces", for example, can be toxic, if you never come outside of them to discuss issues with the general population.  I've seen people who retreat into them and never come out.  After a while, the stuff that I start hearing from them starts sounding as insane as the stuff that we get from the alt-right, even if I agree with those people on the base goal which they've twisted into absurdity.

Comment by Daniel W on December 18, 2016 at 11:35am

Joseph, I lose it in voice mail too.  Also with telephone people like the encounter described below.  If I can, I write it down first so that I don't babble.

Comment by Daniel W on December 18, 2016 at 11:27am

Joseph, I agree with you 100% that a place is needed for venting and safe discussion among like minded people.  I apologize for my strong wording.

Kathy, I think a ow information voter can perceive that they are being demeaned.  I am guilty of doing that online in places such as this.  They won't be reading here, but they are well aware of what their pundits tell them.

Tom, you make some really good points.  First, that changes of leadership renew organizations, as well as the unreported benefit that they probably renew the people being replaced, who then need to adapt and grow and learn new things.  It's hard, but stagnation is bad too.

Tom, your other point about the Berni Sanders movement is well taken.  I don't disagree with that at all.  I thought Clinton had a better chance in the general election, and maybe I was wrong.  We'll never know.  Is it possible that he too, has been in politics too long, and that fresher leaders are needed? 

I continue to assert that a revolt of yellow dog Democrats is needed, not just the young but the old, and not just the coasts and liberal strongholds, but the rust belt and corn belt and agricultural belt of the Southeast, and blue collar everywhere.  We need balance of powers, not elites who as Tom states abandon their base.  The Democrat party should have a big tent, not just politically correct and blue state.  Where does the rubber hit the road?  Details, the devil is in the details.

Comment by Joseph P on December 18, 2016 at 1:24am

That's like me in a voice-mail, Joan.  I hear the beep, and I just freaking lose it.  By the time I reach about 30 or 45 seconds in, I forget what I said during the first 15 or 20 seconds, and then I just ramble all over the place, trying to cover things that I probably already covered.

Comment by k.h. ky on December 18, 2016 at 1:04am
Can a low information voter be insulted? I mean wouldn't the have to know enough to know an insult. Lol
Comment by tom sarbeck on December 18, 2016 at 12:59am
A US senator once told an environmental group I was active with that after about six years a reform group needs reform.
The reason was that as a group's leaders gain skills they separate themselves from the other members and become an elite.
Don't be discouraged by that; simply accept it as a reality of politics.
Comment by Joan Denoo on December 18, 2016 at 12:39am

Please forgive my double sentences and paragraphs. I vow to be more careful in future posts. 

Comment by tom sarbeck on December 18, 2016 at 12:18am
Daniel, I appreciate the effort your Problem-Solution post below required. I was hyper-active in the 1970s and 1980s (less active since then) and saw the elites of both parties abandon their base.
IMO the Repubs exploited their based more cruelly than the Dems did, and when the rebellion came Trump was far more the demagogue than Sanders was.
How does your voter-led revolt differ from the revolt Bernie Sanders led?
Comment by Joan Denoo on December 18, 2016 at 12:12am

Daniel, Joseph P., and Ruth, I very much like the tone of this discussion. Yes, it is time to listen to the wage-worker, the small business person, and to those who pay taxes while seeing the One Percenters take advantage of our tax system. Yes, it is time to start a tax-paying, voting person revolt against the tyranny of corruption in our governments. 

Yes, it is time to listen to the wage-worker, the small business person, and to those who pay taxes while seeing the One Percenters take advantage of our tax system. Yes, it is time to start a tax-paying, voting person revolt against the tyranny of corruption in our governments. 

Yes, it is time to start a tax-paying, voting person revolt against the tyranny of corruption in our governments. 

Yes, it is time to confront people who make uninformed statements and challenge those who spread false news. A face-palm button is in order to facilitate this action. 

Yes, ridicule is a valid response to some individuals and groups, as is to react, reply, rejoin, challenge, inform, explain, question, retort, inspire, advise, describe, doubt, counter, discuss, and to respond with cynicism, pessimism, and skepticism.

I expect and welcome and respect those who respond to my writings with cynicism, pessimism, and skepticism. The old CPS responses. 

 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 17, 2016 at 11:24pm

I see low information voters as having been invisibly shaped by the algorithms in their communication media. See Oliver Luckett's short video in this discussion. It's not just lack of information, willful ignorance, or being tricked by astroturfing and fake news. We are all manipulated in sophisticated ways to which we are blind. Atheist Nexus is a safe haven from this silo effect in one sense, but we're also a self-selected information bubble too. I ordered his book. Will know more after I've read it.

 
 
 

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