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Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Michael Hudson: How Private Debt Makes the Rich Richer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joseph P Dec 2. 4 Replies

Michael Hudson: How Private Debt Makes the Rich RicherMichael Hudson talks about the causes of inequality in the 21st century. He  summarizes the important theses from his new book "The Sector - Why Global Finance Is Destroying Us". for a symposium…Continue

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Meet the Renegades Steve Keen

Started by Joan Denoo Dec 1. 0 Replies

Meet the Renegades Steve KeenSteve Keen’s, one of the very few economists, globally, perfectly predicted the 2007-08 financial crisis. Recently he predicted the Chinese economic downturn and the deflation…Continue

Tags: banks, lending, speculation, investment, crisis

Tomgram: Rebecca Gordon, No "New Normal"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 21. 2 Replies

Tomgram: Rebecca Gordon, No "New Normal" *We have a * President-elect with enough electoral college votes to be POTUS with an …Continue

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Comment by tom sarbeck on November 21, 2016 at 4:47am

Joan, when I first read Donald's post I had no time to read the article.

After reading your summary, I want to ask the writer if he intends to put rural America beyond the reach of communication.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 21, 2016 at 2:01am

Donald, I found this statement so clear, descriptive, and compelling I could feel for the writer. He uncomplicates so many things in his comment. Here are a few gems I gleaned from his writing. It is well worth one's time to read the entire comment.

"The real problem is rural America doesn’t understand the causes of their own situations and fears and they have shown no interest in finding out.  They don’t want to know why they feel the way they do or why they are struggling because the don’t want to admit it is in large part because of choices they’ve made and horrible things they’ve allowed themselves to believe."

"The problem is they don’t understand themselves, the reasons for their anger/frustrations, and don’t seem to care to know why.

"In deep red, white America, the white Christian God is king, figuratively and literally.  Religious fundamentalism is what has shaped most of their belief systems.  Systems built on a fundamentalist framework are not conducive for introspection, questioning, learning, change.

"Religious fundamentalism is what has shaped most of their belief systems."

"The problem is rural America doesn’t understand itself and will NEVER listen to anyone outside their bubble.

"rural white Americans, whenever presented with any information that contradicts their entrenched beliefs, no matter how sound, how unquestionable, how obvious, they WILL NOT even entertain the possibility it might be true.

"Education is the enemy of fundamentalism because fundamentalism, by its very nature, is not built on facts.

"Learning is only valued up to the certain point.  Once it reaches the level where what you learn contradicts doctrine and fundamentalist arguments, it becomes dangerous.

"rural, Christian, white Americans are racists. I’m not talking about white hood wearing, cross burning, lynching racists (though some are.)  I’m talking about people who deep down in their heart of hearts truly believe they are superior because they are white.

"not only are we fighting against an anti-education belief system, we are arguing against God.

"Another major problem with closed-off, fundamentalist belief systems is they are very susceptible to propaganda.

"rural, Christian, white Americans will not listen to educated arguments, supported by facts that go against their fundamentalist belief systems from “outsiders,” any change must come from within.

"Rural, Christian, white Americans have let in anti-intellectual, anti-science, bigoted, racists into their system.

"even though they are the Chosen Ones, they are the ones being screwed by all the people and groups they believe they are superior to.  

"Gays being allowed to marry are a threat.  

Blacks protesting the killing of their unarmed friends and family are a threat.  

Hispanics doing the cheap labor on their farms are somehow viewed a threat.  

The black President is a threat.  

Two billion Muslims are a threat.  

The Chinese are a threat.  

Women wanting to be autonomous are a threat.

The college educated are a threat.

Godless scientists are a threat.

Everyone who isn’t just like them has been sold to them as a threat and they’ve bought it hook, line, and sinker.

Comment by Donald L. Engel on November 20, 2016 at 4:53pm
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 20, 2016 at 12:26pm

Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke and a coven of conservative cardinals are pressing Pope Francis to clarify the church's stance on divorce and LGBTs.
That's not particularly surprising or alarming, but the article quoted a speech made by Steve Bannon to the Vatican in 2014. This is alarming.

Burke, no friend of the pontiff, is as ultra-conservative as they get, once declaring that Catholics John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi should be denied Holy Communion for their pro-choice beliefs. And as president of the advisory board of the Human Dignity Institute, he was also in charge when none other than President-elect Donald Trump confidant and chief strategist Steve Bannon gave a speech at the Vatican in 2014, during which he warned the church to stick to its conservative ideals or face apocalyptic repercussions. “We’re at the very beginning stages of a very brutal and bloody conflict, of which if the people in this room, the people in the church, do not bind together and really form what I feel is an aspect of the church militant, to really be able to not just stand with our beliefs, but to fight for our beliefs against this new barbarity that’s starting, that will completely eradicate everything that we’ve been bequeathed over the last 2,000, 2,500 years,” Bannon said in his address.

Comment by tom sarbeck on November 19, 2016 at 1:47am
What was Obama's face doing as he said it?
Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on November 18, 2016 at 10:21pm

Obama did say, "If Trump is successful the country is successful", and I had the same reaction as this.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 15, 2016 at 10:39am

I don't remember posting a Permian Extinction video.  Perhaps it was Joan.

Comment by tom sarbeck on November 15, 2016 at 12:18am

Thanks for the Permian Extinction video, Spud. I'd read only bits and pieces about it.

I doubted several early adjectives, such as 'nurturing' to describe earlier eras. Some pond scum engulfed other pond scum. Later adjectives are more accurate.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 15, 2016 at 12:06am

Joseph, you said it for me! "bring all immigrants into the system.  I consider the well-being of and fighting the exploitation of those immigrants to be one of the most important factors."

My experience as an employer of Mexicans in my garden and helping me with my chores has been positive. The ones I hire have been dependable, reliable, resourceful, intelligent, and honest.  I paid them above the going wage because they performed well. 

Comment by Joseph P on November 14, 2016 at 11:21pm

Probably either a Proverb or from Shakespeare, Cat.  It's amazing how many of the classic sayings that people think are biblical are actually from Shakespeare, with no biblical analogue.

It's the same as with Paradise Lost.  Most Christians have no idea that what they think of as their theology about Satan is nothing more than fan-fiction pulled from non-canonical gospels and other sources.

I generally just point to the Dunning-Kruger effect.

And yes, there are many reasons to bring all immigrants into the system.  I consider the well-being of and fighting the exploitation of those immigrants to be one of the most important factors.  But I try to keep my arguments to things that the conservatives actually give a fuck about, and clearly that sort of thing doesn't count.

 
 
 

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