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Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 5, 2015 at 1:04pm

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I hadn't heard of prayer shaming, great comment Bertold!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 5, 2015 at 12:54pm

Pierce on "prayer shaming" (I love that coinage!)

A Few Words About 'Prayer-Shaming'
If it helps break the stranglehold of the religious right—and the various charlatans and fools that cater to them—on our politics, it will be worth it.

It's long past the time to break the power and influence held over our politics by a splinter faction of one form of American Christianity. It's long past time to make refashioning the Gospel into talking-points—​and, worse, a vehicle for ratfcking—​a political liability rather than a political asset. It's long past time to ignore the bleating of self-professed Christians who specialize in marinating in their victimology, who build their own Golgothas, and who drive the nails into their own palms. If so-called "prayer-shaming" is the first step in that direction, then Chris Murphy's entire career in politics has been worthwhile.

I am heartily fed up with this nonsense. I am heartily fed up with people whose personal relationships with their personal Lords And Saviors lead them to knuckle the poor, subjugate women, brag about their gunmanship, and topple inconvenient regimes that happen to be sitting on an ocean of oil. I am heartily fed up with people whose support for Israel is based on a couple of misunderstood passages from the craziest book in the Bible in which Jesus comes back to Earth as an X Man and gets into some enthusiastic disemboweling. And I am heartily fed up with alleged Christians who contribute to some very curious damn poll numbers.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 4, 2015 at 6:01pm

God isn't fixing this as a headline is an exquisite counterpoint to the Repuglican candidates'  calls for prayer as the solution. This reminds me of a great cartoon that I can't find at the moment. A U.S. aid plane has left two big cartons in Africa labeled "prayers" and "thoughts." A starving child checks them out and says, "They're empty."

Comment by Grinning Cat on December 4, 2015 at 5:25pm

Loren, the NY Daily News spoke truth when it put "GOD ISN'T FIXING THIS" in bold two-inch-high letters on its front page!

(With right-wing/religious outrage on cue, that I don't feel like quoting or linking to... just google "god isn't fixing this"!)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 4, 2015 at 5:09pm

Tom - Pierce is the author of Idiot America. You wouldn't like him. He has a sense of humor.

Comment by tom sarbeck on December 4, 2015 at 12:12am

Bert:

...humans construct laws—and, therefore, governments—to keep both the lone wolf and the pack at bay.

Pierce's elaborately reasoned explanation differs importantly from that of America's founders who actually made law and constructed a government.

They said the purpose of laws and government is to protect property.

Consider also Pierce's claim that Abdelhamid Abaaoud and Robert Dear both represent those parts of us that are kept at bay by the law and by government:

Laws and governments have for millenia been failing, and our law and government failed to keep Abaaoud and Dear at bay.

And Pierce's humans are not by nature social?

Who is Pierce?

Comment by Loren Miller on December 3, 2015 at 1:54pm

Regarding the recent shootings in San Bernadino and others before it, I think the Daily News has a cogent thought on the subject:

Click on the above to enlarge.

Is it even remotely possible that people can quit wringing hands or bowing heads in useless religious gestures and actually DO SOMETHING about these tragedies???

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 3, 2015 at 6:49am

Charles Pierce in Esquire politics:

The Human Impulse to Live Beyond the Law
A few words on violence, and politics that no longer understand people.

The problem in our politics, I think, and certainly the problem of the connection between violent rhetoric and violent action, which is real and growing, lies in the fact that the people who run campaigns—and, increasingly, the people on whose behalf those campaigns are run—construct them along a consumer model and as branding exercises aimed at faceless target audiences. For all the stories of real people that we hear from the stump, the people who organize and run our politics have grown so distant from the actual human beings they seek to represent that many of them have forgotten human nature entirely in their attempts to capitalize on those aspects of it that will close the deal for them at the polls. They have forgotten that humans are not by nature social, and that humans construct laws—and, therefore, governments—to keep both the lone wolf and the pack at bay. Once you've forgotten that, you can appeal to the worst instincts of both and walk away from the consequences.

Alienation is too easy an answer. It is an academic's answer. Simply, our politics don't understand people anymore. The people practicing our politics have decided quite clearly that they don't have to understand people, at least not that deeply, anyway. Abdelhamid Abaaoud and Robert Dear both represent those parts of us that are kept at bay by the law and by government and, therefore, they both represent those parts of us that resent the law for doing so. The call of the lone wolf and the call of the pack are in harmony within them, their ancient howls blending together now, riding on a cold, dead winter's wind, searching for too-eager ears.

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 28, 2015 at 12:49pm

The Perfect Republican Stump Speech, as given by an imaginary candidate pandering to majority Republican opinions, with copious footnotes, by Barton Swaim: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/stump-speech/

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 25, 2015 at 1:03pm

Conservative Christian "logic", as drawn XKCD-style by Andy McClure. (Click to enlarge.)

Meanwhile, in America... “I’m terrified of Muslims. I don’t want Sharia law in America.” “OK. Let’s avoid that by separating church and state.” “Nope. I believe in Jesus. I want this country to be more Christian.” “OK. Here are some refugees who need help.” “Nope. Not helping refugees while we still have homeless kids and veterans here.” “OK. Here’s a bill to help vets.” “Nope. I don’t want to raise taxes.” “OK. What about homeless kids?” “Nope. Their parents are just lazy and want handouts. They shouldn’t have had kids if they can’t afford kids.” “OK. Let’s fund Planned Parenthood to help people plan their parenthood.” “Nope. Some of that money might go for an abortion. I’m PRO LIFE.” “OK. Let’s give everyone easier access to health care to improve and extend their lives.” “Nope. That’s SOCIALISM. I believe in the Constitution. Not dirty, dirty SOCIALISM.” “OK. At least we can agree on that. I especially like how the constitution gives everyone freedom of (AND FROM) religion.” “YES! Freedom of religion! Except Muslims. I’m terrified of Muslims.”(via Friendly Atheist: "This is Conservative Christian Logic in a Nutshell")

 
 
 

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