Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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TPP - what's been leaked

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 6. 6 Replies

Public Citizen warns of known dangers hidden in the Trans Pacific Partnership. Even with the extreme secrecy, we know enough, due to partial leaks of the secret text, to be very afraid. For instance, we know the TPP would:Lower U.S. wages by…Continue

Tags: corporate tribunals, overcharging for medication, outsourcing US jobs, food and safety threats, TPP

Kevin Kruse on How Corporate America Created Christian America (YouTube)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 23. 8 Replies

It isn't very often that something goes upside my head with the kind of impact that happened yesterday afternoon, when the 38th Annual Convention of the Freedom From Religion Foundation had as one of its guest speakers Kevin M. Kruse.  Mr. Kruse is…Continue

Tags: One Nation Under God, Kevin Kruse

Presidential election - last time around Michelle Obama said : "The truth matters." Republicans are laughing all the way to the bank at the quaintness of such a naive thought.

Started by Bertold Brautigan. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 24. 23 Replies

Ben Carson: Big Bang A Fairy Tale, Theory Of Evolution Encouraged By The DevilIt's nice that the Republicans have Dr.(!) Ben Carson as their house n-word. He's cute, articulate, humble and smooth, and his speech patterns are oh, so laid back and…Continue

Tags: Carson, creationism, evolution, primary, election

A View of Islam from Muhammad Syed: Ex-Muslim

Started by Loren Miller Sep 23. 0 Replies

There is a great deal of discussion that goes on about Muslims and Islam in the US which comes from people who are not, themselves, directly connected with either the people or the religion.  Muhammad Syed, president of Ex-Muslims of North America,…Continue

Tags: Muslims, Seth Andrews, ISIS, Islam, Muhammad Syed

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 13, 2013 at 4:35pm

"How is it possible to engage in democratic discourse in a culture where vast segments of the populace suffer from a pernicious ignorance resultant from an inability to envisage the world that exists outside of their consumerist bubble? In short, they are devoid of the ability to process the criteria of their own experience (degraded as it is under the dictates of the corporate state) because their field of reference has been so radically diminished. 

"Moreover, when we have been socialized to hide our essential self before unreasonable power…to suppress the verities of the heart, and instead to truckle before our exploiters, and to act as if we should be grateful for the privilege of having this clutch of vampiric elitist, day after day, bleed us dry. 

"Once, we begin to evince the aforementioned mode of being, one's heart begins to whither to dust…a connection to life becomes severed. Yet, there exist crucial angels, earthbound, shambling in sorrow, who will approach us. Because decay and seed are one, these angels inform us of their presence by inflicting a sickness of the soul. 

"In a desperate age, these angels approach us as a so-called depression (both economic and psychical)…a state of being intended to bring to a standstill the false accommodations that are the calling card of the false self. 

"Although undetectable to the intellect (except in dreams, visions, works of art and pathologies) your soul holds you in its thrall. The soul, as tenacious as life itself, delivers ruin and renewal. Look around you…note the decay of the capitalist state. This is the work of the soul. Where, it has been blocked, it will deliver a wasteland. 

"When engaged in discourse with belligerently ignorant teabagger types and self-impressed democratic partisans, remember this: Their convictions and attendant acts are ushering the present order to its demise. They are part of the soul's song i.e., the arias of rot that rise at empire's end."
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 13, 2013 at 2:33am
"Robin Hood In Reverse, Lady Thatcher, Died: She Smashed The Miners, Midwifed The Speculators.
During her administration, Baroness Thatcher redistributed wealth upward, from the workers to the tycoons. Her policies were particularly reactionary. On the one hand, she conducted a vitriolic attack against the miners and labour unions that once defined as “The Enemy Within.” On the other hand, she defended the freedom of the rich and speculators to make money out of thin air though policies of market deregulation and financialisation.

Of course, Lady Thatcher never bothered to ask herself whether she was acting as a Robbin Hood in reverse, fighting for the freedom of the deserving rich to accumulate wealth beyond the dream of avarice. For sure, she never apologised for helping the rich fighting against the poor. Her policies were effective. The Gini index, an indicator of income inequality going from 0 (minimum) to 1 (maximum) sharply increased thanks during the years in which she run the country. It now remains at a historical height and nobody knows when and whether it will be reduced in the future."
The Rise of Income Inequality During Thatcher Neoliberal Policies in Britain.
Comment by Grinning Cat on April 12, 2013 at 8:44pm

This is not a Poe:

If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted. Vote pro-life! CongressmanSteveStockman.com("If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted."
A tweet promoting this bumper sticker from the reelection campaign of Steve Stockman, "the most conservative congressman in Texas!")

Despite this slogan's emotionally appealing fallacy, blastocysts or embryos are potential children, NOT the same as actual babies. This point bears repeating.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 12, 2013 at 12:34pm

We need to maintain political defense of Social Security. The president should have been "praising Social Security, rather than picturing Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and food stamps as the problem. If we did not have those four programs, the United States would have been thrown back into something very akin to the Great Depression." And the amount of human misery at this point, we would literally have people starving to death in America on a frequent basis."

The Grand Betrayal has Arrived

Four legs:  Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and food stamps.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 11, 2013 at 11:16am

The Origins Project at Arizona State University (ASU) presents the final night in the Origins Stories weekend, focusing on the science of storytelling and the storytelling of science. The Storytelling of Science features a panel of esteemed scientists, public intellectuals, and award-winning writers including well-known science educator Bill Nye, astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, theoretical physicist Brian Greene, Science Friday's Ira Flatow, popular science fiction writer Neal Stephenson, executive director of the World Science Festival Tracy Day, and Origins Project director Lawrence Krauss as they discuss the stories behind cutting edge science from the origin of the universe to a discussion of exciting technologies that will change our future. They demonstrate how to convey the excitement of science and the importance helping promote a public understanding of science.



Comment by Joan Denoo on April 9, 2013 at 7:30pm

"The way to deal with superstition is not to be polite to it, but to tackle it with all arms, and so rout it, cripple it, and make it forever infamous and ridiculous. Is it, perchance, cherished by persons who should know better? Then their folly should be brought out into the light of day, and exhibited there in all its hideousness until they flee from it, hiding their heads in shame.

“True enough, even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases, provided only he does not try to inflict them upon other men by force. He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge. Did Darrow, in the course of his dreadful bombardment of Bryan, drop a few shells, incidentally, into measurably cleaner camps? Then let the garrisons of those camps look to their defenses. They are free to shoot back. But they can't disarm their enemy."

~  H.L. Mencken

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 9, 2013 at 7:07pm

Does natural selection favor cooperative or competitive behaviors?

“For almost 100 years, no single person did more to promote the study of the evolution of cooperation than Peter Kropotkin.”

Tom Sarbeck, thanks for the lead to Lee Alan Dugatkin  | Tuesday, Oct. 30, 2012. The Russian Anarchist Prince Who Challenged Evolution Are we cooper...


Peter Kropotkin 

I kind of have an affinity for such men: 

Charles Darwin 


Daniel Dennett 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 9, 2013 at 5:17pm

The poor and weak are fully capable of joining together and exerting their power as a combined force. They have far more power than they think they have. Sometimes power of poor and weak can come from non-violent means, others use violence, slaughter, fire, bombing, and bullets. No one wins in a confligration. 

A non-violent strategy takes a lot of people, for the long haul. Sustained effort in face of a police state means there will be casualties. So, get started before the civil police receive training and equipment for war.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 9, 2013 at 5:10pm

When are clerics going to call a fatwa on men who abuse others, babies or adults, and hold them accountable for their crimes. A baby with a sheet over its head is no more safe than a baby lying on a pillow, butt naked. The same is true for women. Cloth cannot protect one from assault and to claim otherwise is either uneducated, misinformed, or insane. Let's put burqas on all men without a peep hole so they can't see baby girls, children or women.

“Burkas for babies”: Saudi cleric’s new fatwa causes controversy

Sunday, 03 February 2013

"To protect baby girls from being sexually exploited, the Saudi cleric, Sheikh Abdullah Daoud, has called parents to make their female children wear the Islamic headscarf."

Comment by Alan Perlman on April 7, 2013 at 4:51pm

Tom - yes, but there was supposed to be less of it here in the Land of Opportunity.  So lots of poor people came here, where they were exploited by the rich.

Joan - They're not outraged because they're narcotized by the constant barrage of sports, media, marketing, political crap, and tech-toys.  Capitalism has managed to create a degree of comploance and apathy that Hitler or Stalin would envy.


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