Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Are We Monsters? (HuffPost – Neal Gabler)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner 15 hours ago. 14 Replies

Warner Brothers and Universal have both been dusting off an inventory of classic monsters — King Kong, Godzilla, The Mummy, The Wolf Man, etc. — which prompted New York Times film critics Manohla Dargis and A.O. Scott to speculate whether this was a…Continue

Tags: Donald Trump, Joe Walsh, Jimmy Kimmel, monsters


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius May 14. 7 Replies

We, you and I, claim to live in a democracy, a place where the rule of law stands higher than the rule of man. We believe such fallacies because that is what we learned in school, from the first time we stood tall and proud and repeated the "pledge…Continue

Tags: propaganda, tRump, manipulation, fraud, mendacity

The Republicans are going to kill Robert Samuel White's mother.

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by tom sarbeck May 5. 1 Reply

This Twitter thread from Robert Samuel White, telling his family's story and reacting to yesterday's House passage of the American Health "Care" Act that will…Continue

Tags: GOP, Republican Party, Republicans, Greedy Old Party, insurance

Agriculture and religion have much in common, other than bull shit.

Started by Joan Denoo May 4. 0 Replies

Sixty some years ago I started college with a major in horticulture at Washington State College (now university). The first day of class, our prof, Dr. Woody Kalin, explained to us that we would be working with soil, and there was a difference…Continue

Tags: probability, opportunity, possibility, preferability., revolution

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Comment by Grinning Cat on November 14, 2016 at 10:35am

...How about Ben freaking Carson for Sec. of Education?...

Isn't there a "poverb" that the fool is wise in his own eyes?

And Joseph, you're absolutely right on enforcement and judicial discretion: "Should we fine every single person who goes one mile over the speed limit?..."

"[Immigration] laws should only ever be used as an additional layer on top of other offenses.  If someone has kept her head down and has been a good member of society for several years, then by all means, let's fast-track the person to legal, documented status."

Not to mention that we get significant economic benefits on the backs of undocumented farm workers, hotel/hospitality workers, etc. A fairer society would let them become welcomed and documented, and much less vulnerable to exploitation.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 14, 2016 at 9:56am

Comment by Joseph P on November 14, 2016 at 9:56am

Oh, and there's another issue with deporting all of the undocumented immigrants.  All of those people need to be given due process ... unless the neocons want to dispose of one of the constitutional amendments that were written by the actual founding fathers whose names the neocons like to jack off to.  The courts are already overloaded with the people we're in the process of trying to deport, as it is.

Comment by Joseph P on November 14, 2016 at 9:48am

Yeah, on the factual stuff, we know that he's a serial liar.  On the fuzzier subjects, such as his true intentions?  Who the hell knows?

I saw Ben Carson on the lists too, yeah.  I just grabbed the most blatantly obvious one that was the most inappropriate.  At least Ben Carson had an education, even if he can't seem to remember much of it.

"Okay class, now let's go over your reading from last night.  Who can tell me what the pyramids were built for?"

I know one or two dim bulbs who voted for Trump because they don't like Hillary, and they said Trump didn't actually mean anything that he said during the election.

So, you admit that you voted for someone who you think is misrepresenting everything he stands for, and you have absolutely no idea what he'll actually do as president?  What the hell is wrong with you?

One guy tried to sell me on deporting all illegal immigrants with one simple question.  "Do you think that we should enforce all of our laws?"

Fuck no!  Can you imagine what it would be like if we enforced every single law with no allowance for time, place, and circumstances?  It often goes awry, because of all of the sexist, racist douche-bags in the system, but law-enforcement discretion and judicial discretion are absolutely vital, in principle.

Should we fine every single person who goes one mile over the speed limit?  It isn't possible to go for more than a few days without breaking a law, and it isn't possible to enforce almost any law with anything approaching consistency and fairness.

And when you have something like the immigration laws which aren't possible to enforce, what does this tell us about the laws themselves?  Some laws are broken as shit and shouldn't be allowed to stand.

When someone who is here illegally commits a significant crime, then yes, deport the bastard and be rid of him.  Those laws should only ever be used as an additional layer on top of other offenses.  If someone has kept her head down and has been a good member of society for several years, then by all means, let's fast-track the person to legal, documented status.  Hell, the people who have been here illegally but have otherwise been good citizens have already been tested.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 14, 2016 at 9:17am

Great question as far as which is worse. How about Ben freaking Carson for Sec. of Education? The only thing we can count on for sure is that nothing he says means anything.

Comment by Joseph P on November 14, 2016 at 8:58am

Basically, we don't know what the hell he's going to do.  Which is worse: that he'll do what he said during the election or that he won't?

Although, we know that his promise to drain the swamp and oppose the political establishment is complete bullshit.  He's filling his cabinet with longtime Republican politicians and lobbyists.

A lot of his probable choices are horrifying, such as Myron Ebell, a climate-change denialist with no education in anything related to science, as the E.P.A. Administrator.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 14, 2016 at 6:16am

Tom, I'll believe it when Drumpf butts heads with McConnell and Ryan, and we have a ways to wait until that can really happen.

Comment by tom sarbeck on November 14, 2016 at 5:22am
Trump a semi-progressive ? ?
Monday Nov 14 at 3:15 AM

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough says Trump is saying he won't go as batshit right as he said during the campaign.
Comment by Joan Denoo on November 14, 2016 at 3:37am

Oh! Great, another POTUS who hand off the chores of governing to other and when they fail, he doesn't have to take th blame, when they succeed, he gets credit. Sounds like a good job to me. 

I wonder if he has paid his publicity bill yet? I also wonder why all the tradespeople he shafted don't get together and sue him? 

Would it not be fun to witness his present wife give him a swing to his chops in public? 

Comment by Joseph P on November 12, 2016 at 8:13am

That seems like a probable scenario, yes.  Trump has neither the knowledge nor the temperament to govern.

I think his primary role in the government will be starting pissing matches with other world leaders.  Maybe he'll call Angela Merkel fat and ugly.



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