Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Your private internet history up for sale, thanks to Republicans? Being considered by House *tonight*

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The U.S. House of Representatives will be considering S.J.Res. 34, a bill to repeal the FCC's protections for internet privacy, as early as tonight.The bill, passed by…Continue

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The phony "freedoms" Republicans promise

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat Mar 20. 5 Replies

That's the title of Neil Buchanan's article in Newsweek (complete with irrelevant autoplaying video), reprinted from Justia's Verdict site where it has the title "…Continue

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Economics and Community values as to real estate owned by religious groups

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I've been wondering off and on for a long time as to two inter-related (as I see it) issues: 1) evolving how people find community interaction when they want it. 2) real estate values of Churches and similar. 1) So, what I mean by the first is…Continue

California Deregulation as Foreshadow

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How the Energy Boys Fucked Over CaliforniaEven partial deregulation of the electricity market was a nightmare for California.In 2000 and…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 10, 2016 at 6:32pm

If Lang receives a reprimand, or gets negative propaganda, or is required to recant because of his statement, then I hope to hear a loud roar of protest from every mouth using megaphones to denounce those who would challenge his position. 

Lang's speech ought also ring from the rooftops for all to hear. Take heed Pope, lest you go down as Ozymandias. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 10, 2016 at 1:51pm

Daniel - I don't think it is technically. Whether or not it's acceptable in polite company depends on your view of grammar - descriptive or prescriptive.

Comment by Daniel W on March 10, 2016 at 12:02pm
BB, thanks for posting Lang's supportive statements. Interesting. I will ponder the significance.

By the way, I didn't know "Nutshell" was a verb. Interesting.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 10, 2016 at 9:20am

I agree with you Loren that this in no way signals any changes in the Church's stance on anything, and I wouldn't expect any result other than Lang probably getting chastised by his superiors.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 10, 2016 at 9:13am

Bertold, Bishop Lang's statement regarding atheists is at least initially stunning on its face, and far more sweeping than anything Frankie the Gaucho has said regarding atheism or atheists to date.  My problem is that it is commendable only to the degree to which Lang's position will persist despite opposition from Lang's own ranks.  The RCC still thinks of itself as the only game in town, and belief in its standards and usages as not just salutary but mandatory.

I think follow-up on his statement a few days downstream would be worthwhile.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 10, 2016 at 8:56am

Great narration in the video, Daniel. (Except I think there were earlier gods than Zeus and Thor.) You're right about the mascot - the antics of the R's remind me of a word I haven't heard in decades -- monkeyshines.

Comment by Daniel W on March 10, 2016 at 8:44am

Even though I posted this embed on a different topic, I really feel it fits with any discussion of Trump and the Republican electorate.  Here it is again.  This video reminded me of the Repub primaries and especially Trump, even though I kept telling myself no, that's just my sick sense of humor.  My apologies if you don't think it's worth the look.

The Repub party needs to change their mascot to a chimp.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 10, 2016 at 8:37am

Loren - In a way you're right that a choice between the Donald and Tailgunner Ted is no choice, but it's looking like the only choice Repugs are going to have. And if through machinations at the convention they engineer in someone from third place or lower there could be even worse havoc among the high percentage of Rs who feel betrayed by their own assholes, er, party. The situation was nutshelled in Charlie Pierce's column yesterday titled Trump Is Winning Even Though 66 Percent of Us Don't Like Him at All:  I'll get back to grim analysis tomorrow. For now, though, I'm sorry, America, but you've lost your mind.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 10, 2016 at 8:22am

Oh. My. Goodness. In an anomaly of epic proportions, a Catholic leader has actually spoken out and said something that makes sense.

Catholic Bishop Declares Solidarity With Persecuted Atheists
March 9, 2016 by Michael Stone

[Entire Patheos article here]

A prominent Catholic bishop issues a call for all Catholics to defend atheists from persecution.

Bishop Declan Lang, the chair of the UK-based Catholic Bishops’ Conference Department of International Affairs, is asking fellow Catholics and others to defend atheists facing persecution around the world.

From Bishop Declan's statement:

Confronted with these injustices we must not stand by. Moreover we should recognise that the oppression of atheists does not only violate the human rights of people like Fayadh, Alexander, Alber and Karim, but represents a degradation of the fundamental principle that people should be free to hold their own beliefs without fearing for their life or liberty. History has shown time and time again that when one minority group is oppressed with impunity, others soon face the same fate.

I completely agree with the commentator's conclusion:

While the Catholic church continues to be a profoundly immoral institution responsible for a multitude of horrors great and small, it is important nevertheless to give credit where credit is due, and Bishop Lang deserves credit for calling on all Catholics to defend atheists from persecution.

Bottom line: By declaring solidarity with atheists, Bishop Lang is standing up for freedom and justice, as such, he deserves credit and appreciation for his principled stance in support of freedom of conscience.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 10, 2016 at 8:21am

Bertold, Trump's only genuine principle is self-aggrandizement.  He is a shameless self-promoter whose first, last, and only priority is himself.  I wouldn't want him for my apartment superintendent, let alone president.  A choice between him and Cruz is really no choice, as neither of them can consider real needs or situations requiring coherent executive action.

As far as how he has the GOP tied up, it is far less priceless than it is tragic.  The Democrats need to have a credible counterbalance, and right now there is NONE ... and even Tail Gunner Joe McCarthy knew that this nation couldn't survive on one political party.



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