Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Reps. Huffman, Raskin, McNerney, & Kildee Launch Congressional Freethought Caucus (Congressman Jared Huffman)

Started by Loren Miller May 7. 0 Replies

Washington, D.C.- Representatives Jared Huffman (D-CA), Jamie Raskin (D-MD), Jerry McNerney (D-CA), and Dan Kildee (D-MI) announced the launch of the Congressional Freethought Caucus to promote sound public policy based on reason, science, and moral…Continue

Tags: Congress, atheism, Congressional Freethought Caucus

James Howard Kunstler: The Coming Economy Of "Less"

Started by Joan Denoo Mar 23. 0 Replies

James Howard Kunstler: The Coming Economy Of "Less"3:40 "I think what is really going on, what's sort of behind the insanity of this, is the very…Continue

Tags: rational, analysis, herd-emotion, mendacity, America

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Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 5, 2017 at 10:07pm

Thanks for explaining originalism, Joseph and Grinning Cat.

Comment by Joseph P on April 5, 2017 at 9:44pm

But given that they want to drag things back to the days of early industrialization, when vastly wealthy robber-barons could abuse the masses, the literal words of the founders almost always come out in their favor.

The US that the constitution was written for is nothing like what we have today.  A great many of the founders wanted an agrarian society without large scale industrialization and without much international trade.  There weren't yet massive, nationwide monopolies ... no machine guns ... no atomic bombs.

The fact that there are people who will argue for the private ownership of atomic weapons never ceases to amaze me.  You'd think that that would be the perfect obscene hypothetical to demonstrate that there have to be some limits to the second amendment, but apparently not.

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 5, 2017 at 1:09pm

Originalism is selective adherence to the letter of the law when it advances your agenda. Well said, Joseph!

Comment by Joseph P on April 5, 2017 at 11:12am

This is why originalism is completely immoral, in addition to being a complete abortion of jurisprudence.  Gorsuch ruled the way he did, because the law that protects the trucker says that the trucker couldn't be fired for refusing an order to operate his truck in a manner that was unsafe to himself or others.  However, since the trucker was being ordered to  not operate his truck in a manner that was unsafe to himself, he isn't covered by the law.

That was Gorsuch's actual argument.  It's classic originalism.  This is why originalism is bullshit.  It's adherence to the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law.  Considering that the whole freaking point of having judges is interpreting the law ... well, you can see the problem.

Also, the fact that all 8 sitting Supreme Court judges ruled against his decision should be a bit of a red flag.

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 5, 2017 at 11:05am

The nuclear option isn't necessarily a pro-Republican tactic. When Democrats have the Senate majority, they could take advantage of the Republicans' rule change to confirm very liberal judges and justices with a slim majority.

Slight tangent: Gorsuch was a plagiarist. "Gorsuch's writings borrow from other authors" (Politico)

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 5, 2017 at 10:56am

Poker players know bluffing can win.

GOP Senate Leader what's-his-name would be foolish to not try to bluff the Senate Dems about the nuclear option.

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 5, 2017 at 10:35am

Senator Jeff Merkley has been filibustering overnight to block "frozen trucker" pro-corporate extremist Neil Gorsuch's nomination to the stolen seat on the Supreme Court.

The Progressive Change Campaign Committee PAC (BoldProgressives.org) is running this ad, targeting Ted Cruz (202-224-5922), Dean Heller (202-224-6244), and Jeff Flake (202-224-4521), all vulnerable in next year's elections. Call these Republican senators TODAY, and urge them to change the nominee, to someone acceptable to a broad majority of Americans, rather than invoking the nuclear option and changing Senate rules.

(In Alphonse Maddin's "frozen trucker" case, the brakes on his trailer froze, his heater failed, and he waited for help in the minus-27-degree cold. Judge Gorsuch opined that Mr. Maddin was rightfully fired for abandoning his load to save his life, after waiting for hours without heat, and after his torso and feet had gone numb. Fortunately the other two judges on the 10th Circuit panel disagreed.)

Judge Neil Gorsuch would have let this trucker die. On a freezing night in January 2009, Alphonse Maddin was driving a truck with a load of meat through Illinois. The brakes on the trailer froze. The temperature was 27 degrees below zero. As he waited for help, he started having trouble breathing. His skin was cracking, and his speech was slurring. He called his employer. They told him to remain with the truck. Instead, he detached the trailer from the truck and drove to safety. For saving his own life, he was fired by the company. He tried to fight back. But Judge Neil Gorsuch agreed with the company. So why do Senators Ted Cruz, Dean Heller and Jeff Flake support Judge Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court? Call Senator Ted Cruz at 202-224-5922. Call Senator Dean Heller at 202-224-6244. Call Senator Jeff Flake at 202-224-4521. Ask why they support big corporations over people.(click to enlarge; copy-and-paste into Notepad, etc. for plain text)

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 4, 2017 at 10:36am

Satire: "White House Spokesman Sean Spicer Prepares By Reading The Onion" (Lauging in Disbelief)

... Mr. Spicer stated that reading the pieces silently is not enough:

"President Trump expects his spokesman to completely support whatever falsehood of the day he is tweeting. I have to make sure that whatever comes out of my mouth is 110% believable. I read articles from The Onion out loud in front of the mirror every morning for twenty minutes to make sure I’m ready." ...

... The Onion’s political stories aren’t the only ones that get Mr. Spicer’s attention. He has a passionate love for the Science and Technology section. For example, he approached President Trump with an idea he got from the article NASA Deploys Congressional Rover To Search For Funding....

(read the whole thing)

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 4, 2017 at 9:30am

Republican riding the Supreme Court STOLEN SEAT (with tank treads), carrying a pennant, 'NUCLEAR OPTION'

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Folks in the U.S.: call your senators TODAY! 202-224-3121 or find their info at senate.gov or govtrack.us.

From Indivisible Guide'sinformation and phone script:

Gorsuch has routinely put the interests of employers, institutions, and big business ahead of average Americans. 

When a company fired a trucker for leaving his cargo to seek help in subzero temperatures—after the man waited long enough for his torso to go numb—Judge Gorsuch sided with the company. When a professor recovering from cancer was fired after requesting a short period of telecommuting to protect her fragile health from a flu epidemic on campus, Judge Gorsuch concluded that her modest request imposed an unfair demand that her employer provide a “safety net.” 

He also wants judges to have greater liberty to substitute their own uninformed views for those of scientists, economists, and other technical experts who spent years meticulously crafting data-driven rules to protect our air, water, health, and safety....

In what is probably Judge Gorsuch’s most famous case, he conjured up the new theory that for-profit corporations have a right to religious freedom. This ... theory radically expands on the fiction that big businesses are people with rights as important—or even more important—than actual people.

Judge Gorsuch believes that business should be able to impose their religious beliefs on their employees—even when doing so means depriving those employees of basic health care—and they should be able to use those “religious beliefs” to avoid the laws that protect the rest of us.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 3, 2017 at 4:01pm
"December 23, 1776. THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman."

Thomas Paine: American Crisis - USHistory.org

The memory of Nixon Era and his fight against newspeople chimes loudly in my mind; this period of history already has the label of the "Trump Era." 

Fear of the outrageous policies and practices put in place by 45 can motivate even the timidest among us to resist. Especially, the fear of the consequences of 45' policies can inspire us to intelligent thought and action. 





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