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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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'Trump's Katrina?' No, it's much worse (Juliette Kayyem - CNN)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 2. 5 Replies

It is a difficult task to turn the memory of Hurricane Katrina into a quaint story of well-meaning government actors unable to save a city from destruction. President Donald Trump managed to do that on Saturday morning when he essentially blamed…Continue

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Trump, America's First White President

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 30. 1 Reply

[reposting from the group "Conversations on Race, Ethnicity, and Culture", which will be was cleared and closed October 1.]Trump, America's first white presidentSo writes…Continue

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Comment by Joseph P on December 17, 2016 at 10:16pm
Joseph, you just insulted EVERY low-information voter who ever lived!

Good.

Comment by Loren Miller on December 17, 2016 at 10:15pm

"Low information voters?!?"  Joseph, you just insulted EVERY low-information voter who ever lived!  I'm not even certain that the sizzle-vs-steak comparison holds here, because I doubt the average Drumpf voter knows what sizzle is!

Comment by Joseph P on December 17, 2016 at 10:15pm

Oh, and I was never really a believer, as far back as I can remember ... basically as soon as I was able to sort out an actual stance on something as complex as religious belief.  It was somewhere around the age of 9 or so that I had concluded that Christianity fell into the same category as Greek and Norse mythology, to which I had been exposed at the same time as (but not actually in) kindergarten.

I didn't fall into the trap of cynicism, though.  I dove.

Comment by Joseph P on December 17, 2016 at 10:09pm

You have to differentiate between Trump devotees and voters.  The devotees might have been voting rationally, for a given value of rational.  They know that they hate immigrants and minorities, and Trump is extremely anti-immigration ... or at least he was during the campaign.  They knew what they wanted.

Heh heh heh heh heh.  You could be onto something there, about Ken Burns, if he capitalizes on it.  After all, Joe the Plumber benefited greatly from his sudden bit of fame.  I don't know that Ken Burns is doing anything with his 15 minutes, but he possibly could, if he was so inclined.

I just meant his prior income level, before he was splashed all over the news and social media.

After all, I've seen sexy-Ken-Burns Halloween costumes, as scary as that is.  So, clearly people noticed.

Comment by tom sarbeck on December 17, 2016 at 10:05pm
Ruth, you used to believe...?

Who did not once believe what they'd been told? Welcome to the club.

Now, can you avoid the trap of cynicism?
Comment by tom sarbeck on December 17, 2016 at 9:58pm
Add this: Burns' documentary on Trump will interest viewers worldwide.
Comment by tom sarbeck on December 17, 2016 at 9:55pm
Did Trump's devotees vote rationally?

I figured they were so angry at their exploitation for thirty-plus years by the GOP Establishment that rationality had no part in anything they did.

As for Ken Burns' financial advantage, Trump's win will furnish Burns with material for a documentary as popular as the best of his others.
Comment by Joseph P on December 17, 2016 at 9:26pm

Err, when I say that conservatives have an edge, I mean that they tend to be much lower-information voters.  Christ, that was a horrible way to put it.

Comment by Joseph P on December 17, 2016 at 9:21pm

Yeah, most voters on either side are fairly low-information voters, but I think conservatives have an edge.  Anyone who thought that Trump was going to be a populist president, even though he ran a populist campaign, wasn't paying attention.

The signs were there, long before the election.  He's going to put his financial interests into a blind trust ... by having his children run his company ... his children who are being included in his meetings with foreign leaders.  And refusing to release his tax returns was a BIG red flag.  That and his rallies looked like fascism in action.

I just don't get it how anyone expecting him to govern in a manner that would be in their financial interests could be fooled.  Sure, anyone making more than a million dollars a year ... but anyone else, not so much.

Ken Burns said that voting for Trump would be to his financial advantage, but I doubt his analysis of the situation.  I want to know how much he makes per year.  I think that Ken was badly mistaken.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 17, 2016 at 8:44pm

It's probably unfair to most GOP voters, who still think we live in an actual democracy and buy the populist propaganda. I used to believe what I'd been told by political authorities, even religious ones, when I was under 20. I'm sure a lot of well meaning, clueless, bigots don't grasp that they've ushered in a US Nazi reality.

I'd not have posted something so nasty were I not so outraged by what the GOP has done. This virulence is symptomatic of my mental state, my overwhelming disgust.

 
 
 

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