Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia Jun 2. 2 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 24. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 23. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2018 at 5:24pm

Loren, I agree:

re·li·gion, noun
  1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
    "ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
    synonyms: faith, belief, worship, creed; More
    • a particular system of faith and worship.
      plural noun: religions
      "the world's great religions"
    • a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
      "consumerism is the new religion"
Comment by Loren Miller on May 17, 2018 at 5:57am

In an age of information, ignorance is a choice.
-- Donny Miller

Honestly, I have to say that there was never a time when the above statement had more relevance or importance than RIGHT NOW.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 16, 2018 at 5:44am

The only interesting thing about religion is how many people it's slaughtered. Communism and Nazism are religions as well, make no mistake about it.
― Lemmy Kilmister

To the degree to which any organization of any sort becomes a cult of personality (Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Jones, Koresh, Putin), I would say I have to agree.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 15, 2018 at 7:26pm

@Loren - As Bart would say, don't have a cow. He explicitly notes in his preface he's not excoriating ALL us boomers. And looking at current affairs, you can't really say we haven't fucked the dog.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 15, 2018 at 6:45pm

Have to say, I think Gibney is painting with way too broad a brush, and yeah, that comes from a Boomer.  The generation which gave us Donald Trump also gave us Christopher Hitchens, so let's not be too hasty with the condemnations, okay?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 15, 2018 at 5:13pm

For the past several decades, the nation has been run by people who present, personally and politically, the full sociopathic pathology: deceit, selfishness, imprudence, remorselessness, hostility, the works. Those people are the Baby Boomers, that vast and strange generation born between 1940 and 1964, and the society they created does not work very well.

~Bruce Cannon Gibney

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 15, 2018 at 9:05am

Love that quote, GC.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 15, 2018 at 6:45am

A corollary to your Harris quote, Homer:

There's no one whose views are not subject to question.
-- Lawrence Krauss

That one continues to be a biggie with me, and for good reason.

Comment by Homer Edward Price on May 15, 2018 at 6:41am

To requote Sam Harris, 

Rational, open-ended, honest inquiry has always been the true source of insight into such [moral] processes.

That was the method used the Quakers in their meetings; they thought their ideas were implanted in them by God, but they were really using their own minds, unfettered by religious dogma. It was also the method used by Thomas Clarkson in England.

Joan mentioned the Enlightenment; the man who thought through its political implications most thoroughly was Thomas Jefferson.  He really believed that slavery was immoral, and he considered black people to be morally equal to whites, though he doubted that were intellectually equal.  But his early calls for legal emancipation in Virginia got no traction, and he decided that it was politically a non-starter.  Worse, he could not afford to emancipate his own slaves because of the heavy debts that he had inherited from his wife's father.  Many of Jefferson's slaves had to be sold after his own death to pay those debts.  

Comment by Loren Miller on May 15, 2018 at 5:10am

The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
-- Albert Einstein

Albert pretty much  nails it here, though I wouldn't give the bible any great amount of credit for being "honorable."

 

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