Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

"We need a much broader conversation on what morality of pro-life is"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Apr 28. 3 Replies

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a…Continue

Tags: Planned, Parenthood, contraception, Pro-life,, O.S.B.

Aron Ra on Gods, Demons, and the Meaning of Life

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 20. 2 Replies

This isn't quite a rant, but it's more than just a talk or a speech.  What follows here is the end of something Aron Ra delivered several years ago which has stuck with me practically since I first…Continue

Tags: soul, bible, skeptic, devil, god

Truth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Feb 11. 14 Replies

"APHORISM XXV. He who begins by loving Christianity better than Truth, will proceed by loving his own sect or Church better than Christianity, and end loving himself better than all."~…Continue

Tags: Truth

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Comment by Loren Miller on May 8, 2019 at 5:17am

To a coward, courage always looks like stupidity.
-- Bill Maher

Say what you want about Bill Maher; here, HE NAILS IT. If a coward could face an untoward situation, confront it and take action against it, he wouldn't be a coward. In this case, Maher was referring to the threat of Islam and how too many people shrink away from that threat or use PC excuses to try to justify their attitude.

Islam needs to be confronted, as surely as Christianity, Judaism, or any religion that acts out irrationally against those who don't believe should be. Whether it's jihad, attacks on abortion clinics, or the treatment of Palestinians, those behaviors need to be called out and STOPPED.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 8, 2019 at 5:04am

Ruth, if any such religion ever does assert itself, it should have a simple name:

REALITY.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 7, 2019 at 2:48pm

Great quotes, Loren. Both Saffron Herndon and Nietzsche. Especially, "to stand in the midst of ... this whole marvelous uncertainty and rich ambiguity of existence without questioning, without trembling with the craving and the rapture of such questioning..." Yes, reason can be scary to those craving child-like absolutes and certainty.

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Comment by Loren Miller on May 7, 2019 at 5:49am

Knowing what we are, knowing how it is, knowing the worst that may come, Atheists must speak.
-- Madalyn Murray O’Hair

Believers have certainly been vocal in claiming their "persecution" at the hands of the secular state, when what really has been happening is that they are slowly but surely being reduced to equal status in society. Atheists must indeed speak, in order to raise ourselves up to that same level.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 6, 2019 at 11:31pm

“No wild beasts are so dangerous to men as Christians are to one another.”
―Julian
Source/Notes:
As quoted by Ammianus Marcellinus, as translated in Barbarians: An Alternative Roman History (2006) by Terry Jones, p. 205 ISBN 9780563539162

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 6, 2019 at 4:55pm

The issue is questioning.

What question do I ask matters?

Who do I ask matters?

What is my intention matters?

What difference will my question make?

I can seek agronomists to answer my questions about soil and learn new ways to create healthy land on which I plant my seeds. 

If I learn how to turn sterile, sandy soil into productive loam, I will have healthier, more resilient and better resistance from pests and diseases and improve my crop quality and yield.

I seek answers from astrophysicists about this theory or that and receive one sentence replies, signifying nothing. I don't understand before I ask the questions, I know nothing more after asking. What is the point of wasting his time and mine? Yes, I would like to know if gravity pulled chunks of "stuff" into a ball and the evolutionary process begins, but what if gravity isn't the force that accomplishes that task? Should I become hostile to the astrophysicist for not giving me an 18-year course in astrophysics? I can watch him on the internet giving class lectures, and I still have the question unanswered. So, I can sit back, read my soil journals and raise healthy, nutritious food. 

 

Comment by Loren Miller on May 6, 2019 at 5:21am

Among some pious people I found a hatred of reason and was well disposed to them for that; for this at least betrayed their bad intellectual conscience. But to stand in the midst of this rerum concordia discors and of this whole marvelous uncertainty and rich ambiguity of existence without questioning, without trembling with the craving and the rapture of such questioning, without at least hating the person who questions, perhaps even finding him faintly amusing—that is what I feel to be contemptible...
-- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

Not to question is not to learn and not to discover. Yet on multiple occasions I've heard of Christians saying their holy book or doctrines or dogma are supposed to be beyond such scrutiny, whereupon I have to ask:

WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?

Comment by Loren Miller on May 5, 2019 at 6:06am

Actually, I think one is showing more maturity ... and it ain't the adult!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 5, 2019 at 2:07am

”Beware of false knowledge, it is more dangerous than ignorance.”

~ George Bernard Shaw 

Comment by Loren Miller on May 4, 2019 at 6:18am

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
-- Philip K. Dick

Which very simply means that reality doesn't adapt to us. We can either learn to adapt to reality or understand it deeply enough to be able to use its principles in our favor.

 

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