Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia Jun 2. 2 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 24. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 23. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on November 20, 2017 at 10:50am

Loren, there's something deviously satisfying about a nun getting decked for good reason.  (...for good reason.  See what I did there?)

You went to high school in the Chicago area?  New Trier West?

Comment by Loren Miller on November 20, 2017 at 7:31am

There is something infantile in the presumption that somebody else has a responsibility to give your life meaning and point… The truly adult view, by contrast, is that our life is as meaningful, as full and as wonderful as we choose to make it.
― Richard Dawkins

It's not just infantile, it's presumptuous. On that basis, anyone who doesn't acknowledge the supposed "purpose" put forward by a deity which has neither substance nor trace of evidence supporting it is a rudderless fool, meandering about without focus or aspiration. What that really amounts to is yet one more straw man, used to take cheap potshots at those of us who do indeed have our own self-determined desires and directions in our lives and have arrived at these without supernatural assistance (which is unavailable anyway).

Of course, a lot of this has to do with their assertion about "ultimate" meaning or purpose or whatever, to which my response is that I don't need ultimate meaning.  My life means something to me NOW ... and NOW is all we've got.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 19, 2017 at 10:14pm

Tom, it's a fact that the catholic church was utterly determined to teach their charges WHAT to think rather than HOW to.  Though I didn't realize it at the time, my first real girlfriend, one Carmen Allegra Willis, personified that when she DECKED a nun at Sacred Heart High School who thought to "correct" Carmen regarding her independent thinking processes.  What neither that nun nor her superiors realized was that her father would back her up against the inappropriately aggressive actions taken by said nun against Carmen, said process fomenting her departure from Sacred Heart.

This is what caused her to wind up at New Trier West that next year, to my great benefit.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on November 19, 2017 at 7:41pm
It’s firmly in mind, Loren.

About 65 years late, I now know I was reading books of quotations because I wanted a non-Catholic moral order I wasn’t hearing from my silent parents. Today we can say it’s a humanist moral order.
Comment by Loren Miller on November 19, 2017 at 6:48am

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who are hungry and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
— Dwight D. Eisenhower

I have my problems with Ike, but at least he not only had his moments of clarity, but also a willingness to criticize a military profession in which he spent a considerable portion of his life. War was not an end to him, but a means to an end: PEACE. I sometimes wonder if military leaders since Eisenhower understand that.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 19, 2017 at 6:43am

Tom, Drumpf barely comes into my consciousness for the great majority of what I post here.  My primary problem with him is that he's playing the Religious Reich by pretending to be one of them and they are (almost) inexplicably buying into his farcical pretense.

That said, Drumpf is NOT the point of this group.  Let's keep that firmly in mind, okay?

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on November 19, 2017 at 2:41am

IMNVHO*, we are reading and/or adding to this list of agreeable quotations:

1) because we want confirmation for our biases, or

2) because Trump's amorality has so distressed us that we want to restore a moral order to our lives.

-- Tom Sarbeck

* IMNVHO means In My Not Very Humble Opinion.

Comment by Patricia on November 18, 2017 at 1:43pm

Good one, Thomas!

Comment by Thomas Murray on November 18, 2017 at 1:42pm

   “I cannot give up on my values and beliefs for the sake of respecting someone else’s values and morals. Because those values explain who am I. I prefer struggling and even dying for what I believe and what I don’t believe.

   Silence is not respect; it is not condemning brutality and cruelty, and neglecting your own existence as human being. I will be killed and so many others because of standing against the fallacy and misleading notion of religions. They will torture us and cut us in pieces alive and even won’t stop disrespecting our death bodies; that is how these monsters have been governing for hundreds thousands of years.”

 M.F. Moonzajer

Comment by Thomas Murray on November 18, 2017 at 1:11pm

  

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”

Mahatma Gandhi

Donald Trump Jr killed an elephant for its tail.

Source: Bing image

 

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