Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius on Sunday. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jul 2. 3 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 24. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 23. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

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Comment by Patricia on July 19, 2018 at 2:42pm

Our daughter & son-in-law think belief needs to run the world.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 19, 2018 at 11:22am

I'll stipulate that, Bertold, but the fact is that Their Beliefs BY THEMSELVES Change NOTHING.  My point was that there are those out there who think that they can change reality purely with their beliefs, that if they believe hard enough, reality conforms to their belief.  You and I both know that is patently WRONG.

Actions change the world, regardless of what they are based on, whether it's belief, fact, or a gut feeling.  And while I'm at it, a commentary:

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 19, 2018 at 10:56am

I beg to differ there in a big way, Loren. People act on their beliefs regardless of the truth value of said beliefs. Case in point, people who think Dolt 45's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I don't think you can argue that they don't affect the world.

As far as I'm concerned, and I've said it before, belief is the most powerful and most dangerous force in the cultural world.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 19, 2018 at 5:55am

A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it.
-- David Stevens

How many times have we heard it? Belief doesn't change facts, nor can it alter reality. Actions Change the World Around Us ... and nothing else.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 19, 2018 at 5:22am

Listening to George Orwell? Are you kidding? When there is Oprah Winfrey, Martha Stewart, or Howard Stern?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 19, 2018 at 12:44am
Believe me, Joan, reading that piece of trash won't help make sense out of anything. It helped create the mess we're in. Foaming at the mouth anti-liberal conspiracy bilge.
Comment by Joan Denoo on July 19, 2018 at 12:23am

Bertold, I have not read "None Dare Call It Treason" and have no idea what to expect. Hopefully, I will be able to make sense out of the mess in which we now find ourselves.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 18, 2018 at 11:21pm
No wonder Charlie Pierce is such a genius--

"Now, I have had an unconquerable sweet-tooth for fringe American rightwing theorizing ever since my father had me read None Dare Call It Treason over one rainy weekend before my freshman year in high school."
Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2018 at 2:37pm

I can't find "probandi" in the dictionary; do you know its meaning?

Oh! I looked with Google and found it is a legal term:

"the burden of proof of which the defendant must prove affirmative defenses or mitigating circumstances in civil or criminal court. In civil court, aggravating circumstances also only have to be proven by a preponderance of the evidence, as opposed to beyond reasonable doubt (as they do in criminal court)."

Comment by Loren Miller on July 18, 2018 at 5:59am

God is an hypothesis, and, as such, stands in need of proof: the onus probandi rests on the theist.
-- Percy Bysshe Shelley

Actually, I have to disagree on one point. There is no scientific basis on which to hypothesize the existence of any god. Alleging a god's existence is a supposition at best, and a weak one at that.

 

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