Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 18, 2019. 2 Replies

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

The Founding Myth: A Striking Quote

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 4, 2019. 4 Replies

Over the last couple of weeks, I have been reading Andrew L. Seidel’s excellent book, The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is UN-AMERICAN. Barely four chapters in, Seidel has already…Continue

Tags: rights, The Founding Myth, Seidel, Andrew

"Mr. President ... I Don't Work For You"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 31, 2019. 13 Replies

There has been a major shot across President Donald Trump's bow and it came, believe it or not, from Fox News.  Specifically, it came from Fox reporter and commentator Neil Cavuto, in response to a…Continue

Tags: Neil Cavuto, Fox News, Donald Trump

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1, 2019. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

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Comment by Chris on December 30, 2017 at 3:18am

In sarcasm

I heard Trump came down the chimney dressed as Santa  to deliver his tax plan as a xmas present.

Unfortunately Santa Trump knows who the 'naughty' children are.

Santa said some didn't leave enough cookies for Santa to feed the elves. Thoes who didn't leave cookies out won't receive a present next xtmas.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 29, 2017 at 11:17pm

Loren, on rethinking your not being willing to self-censor, I am reminded of my piece "Footbinding -Mindbinding" in which I tell the story of the very old Chinese lady I met in a hospital in rural China. She suffered terribly from the binding of her feet when she was about four years old. She said the crime was not only to deliberately break her feet and toes in order to make her more maketable as a bride when she grew up. She stated, through an interpreter, the REAL crime was Mindbinding in which her mother taught her to censor her attitudes, thoughts, and behavior. She didn't use those words but that is the meaning of what she said. I retell her stoy as Footbinding/Mindbinding.

Thanks for responding as you did! 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 29, 2017 at 2:04pm

Christmas has nothing to do with Christ or Religion. 

"Christianity adopted many features of pre-Christian paganism, such as pagan rituals, places of worship, symbolism and even some pagan deities were merged in the images of many Christian saints. All this indicates to pagan origins of Christmas. Above-mentioned process took place in every part of Christian world. It is relevant for the Eastern branches of Christianity and Western ones too. Major Christian events and celebrations, particularly Christmas and Easter bear the marks of inherited pagan rituals and traditions.

In German tradition, Chrismas means "field."

Christmas tree derives from the pagan practice of bringing greenery indoors to decorate in midwinter.

The modern Santa Claus is a direct descendant of England's Father Christmas; he was not originally a gift-giver, he and his other European variations modern evolutions of old pagan ideas about spirits who traveled the sky in midwinter.

Pagans liked to party in midwinter. "According to historians, it's a natural time for a feast. In an agricultural society, the harvest work is done for the year, and there's nothing left to be done in the fields." "The dark days that culminate with the shortest day of the year ­— the winter solstice — could be lightened with feasts and decorations."

"Even now when solstice means not all that much because you can get rid of the darkness with the flick of an electric light switch, even now, it's a very powerful season." (Stephen Nissenbaum, "The Battle for Christmas", Vintage, 1997).

"Despite the spread of Christianity, midwinter festivals did not become Christmas for hundreds of years. The Bible gives no reference to when Jesus was born, which wasn't a problem for early Christians." (Vintage, 1997)

"ancient Egyptians did not have evergreen trees; instead of it, they used palms for the purpose of celebration. A palm tree was the symbol of resurrection and rebirth for them. Egyptians often brought the fronds (palm leaves) into their homes during the time of the winter solstice. This gradually evolved into the modern tradition of the holiday tree." Pagan Christmas

Our Northern family does not celebrate Christmas, we create traditions that seem to be holding the attention of the youngest generations, my grandchildren and great-grandchildren. 

We selected the Winter Solstice as a day of celebrating life and family. The darkest day of the winter becomes brighter with the burning of the Winter Log in the southern meadow of their property. This includes a big feast and gathering of the Johnson-Smith clan. I like staying inside in the warmth of the fire in the stove and access to hot drinks. There are gifts for the children as well as jokes, i.e. coal in stockings and  fake gifts. It is a festival we all enjoy and the kids look forward to the event, even those who know it is based on myths of many nationalities. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 29, 2017 at 1:03pm

Loren, I didn't read it that way. I understood Orwell to mean when he has a racist or bigoted thought, he self-censored. Is that not he meant? knowing Orwell?

Comment by Loren Miller on December 29, 2017 at 6:51am

If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion.
― Edmond de Goncourt

The problem is less a god who does not exist than it is the god's followers who DO.

Comment by Loren Miller on December 29, 2017 at 6:48am

Hmph ... more like "Christians aren't perfect, just indoctrinated."

Comment by Chris on December 29, 2017 at 2:19am

Bertold Brautigan

Real, confident atheists don't think it's offensive to say, "Merry Christmas." We think it's adorable.

--The Rude Pundit

Isn't the adorableness of it the most disturbing?

Sort of like the saying "Christians aren't perfect just forgiven?"

Comment by Loren Miller on December 28, 2017 at 6:38pm

They call it Crimestop.  I call it self-censorship ... and I'll be damned if I'll practice it!

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 28, 2017 at 6:30pm

becoming fools [cc]

"Due to increasing enquiries from ex-Jehovah's Witnesses, I'm now publishing this previously unlisted easter egg video. "—TT

~Theramin Trees 8/40

George Orwell

“The mind should develop a blind spot whenever a dangerous thought presented itself. The process should be automatic, instinctive. Crimestop, they called it in Newspeak.”

~ George Orwell, 1984

Comment by Gary S on December 28, 2017 at 5:17pm

I like that one Spud!

 

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