Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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"Mr. President ... I Don't Work For You"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 31. 13 Replies

There has been a major shot across President Donald Trump's bow and it came, believe it or not, from Fox News.  Specifically, it came from Fox reporter and commentator Neil Cavuto, in response to a…Continue

Tags: Neil Cavuto, Fox News, Donald Trump

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 1. 1 Reply

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

"We need a much broader conversation on what morality of pro-life is"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Apr 28. 3 Replies

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a…Continue

Tags: Planned, Parenthood, contraception, Pro-life,, O.S.B.

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Comment by Loren Miller on October 23, 2017 at 1:21pm

Seems as though there's Nature and there's Nature, depending on the issue at hand.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 23, 2017 at 1:17pm

Tom and Loren, your points are well taken. On the other hand, the farther I get from nature, the more I feel disconnected from myself. There are times, such as when the tree fell over an electric line and cut power for miles around, it was nice to hear the generator start and be able to get lights again. When I am sick, I enjoy the process of diagnosis and am grateful for treatments. I am a born-again atheist and enjoy religious music. I confess to being a hypocrite. Some would say, "a damned hypocrite" and others would say "a god damned hypocrite. 

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on October 23, 2017 at 12:05pm
Bert, a prosperous and moderate Twain said that. I say:
Patriotism is defending your rights all the time.
Or, "No, you can't have my rights; I'm still using them!"
Comment by Tom Sarbeck on October 23, 2017 at 11:45am
Loren, to Gladstone's insights, add:
Progressivism is trust of the people tempered by anger.
FYI: I'm well to the left of Liberalism.
Comment by Loren Miller on October 23, 2017 at 6:20am

Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear.
-- William E. Gladstone

The above was spoken over 150 years ago, yet I can think of no time when it was more evident or applicable than right freaking NOW.

Comment by Loren Miller on October 23, 2017 at 6:18am

Actually, nature leaves a lot of things around which are pretty useless.  My appendix, for example, never mind the gallbladder I had to get rid of (you don't EVER want to have gallstones!).  And when nature does change something, it takes its own freaking time to do it.

The evolutionary process has its own impetus and doesn't much listen to us ... which is likely why gene therapy is a thing!

Comment by tom sarbeck on October 23, 2017 at 3:43am
Joan, do you believe the Nature’s Way piece?

I don’t. Nature does what Nature does. Two recent instances: Harvey in Texas and Irma in Puerto Rico.
What had P M Dunn been drinking?
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 23, 2017 at 3:19am

Loren, a great piece by Dan Rather. Thanks for calling it to my attention. I reposted it on Facebook with thanks to you. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 23, 2017 at 2:38am

“In all things of nature there is something of the marvellous”, “Nature does nothing uselessly”, “If one way be better than another, that you may be sure is nature's way.”

~ P M Dunn

Aristotle (384–322 bc): philosopher and scientist of ancient Greece

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2672651/

It is interesting to see how many farmers, gardeners, and homesteaders return to more natural ways of growing things. There are not the big single species crops but more Food Forests. Much more care of feeding soil through natural processes of animals used to forage and in the process, stir up the soil. Manure and compost from green manure and activated charcoal with "mycorrhizae (myco = fungus, rhizae = roots).  These are primitive associations, thought to have arisen hundreds of millions of years ago when vascular plants emerged on land. Originally, mycorrhizal relationships were thought to be unusual oddities; we now know that they are the rule, rather than the exception, especially in woody plants."

~  Dr. Linda Chalker-Scott, WSU Science Editor

https://s3.wp.wsu.edu/uploads/sites/403/2015/03/mycorrhizae.pdf

Rather than plowing after each harvest, leave crop residues in the soil keeping it covered with plant material at all times. To plant the next crop, cut a thin shallow groove into the surface of the ground, drop in seeds, and cover them. Less soil erosion occurs, organic material accumulates, and the soil soaks up more water.  This encourages better plant growth, saves fuel, time, effort, and wear and tear on the equipment.

Chapter 9

Comment by Loren Miller on October 22, 2017 at 2:44pm

Just for fun, I Googled the Dan Rather quote Ruth put up, and I found the following on Facebook:

I have come to expect that Donald Trump will attack the press. We know why he does so, because the threat of exposed truth, of investigative reporting, is a direct threat to the Trump presidency and his legitimacy.

I worry about bringing attention to all of Mr. Trump's tweets. I worry about allowing him to deflect and try to bend a news cycle to his will. But what he said today needs to be called out. It can't fall into the background noise of Washington. It can't be allowed to be normalized.

"Why Isn't the Senate Intel Committee looking into the Fake News Networks in OUR country to see why so much of our news is just made up-FAKE!"

Let us be clear. The Senate Intelligence Committee is investigating an attack on our democracy, which is an attack on all of us, by a hostile foreign power. What the Russians did is something that every patriotic American should care deeply about, regardless of party.

This is not fake news. This is a real national security crisis. And by his words, the President is suggesting that reporters at places like the New York Times, the Washington Post, and CNN are damaging our country more than Russian intelligence agents.

We can guess why he doesn't want to consider the seriousness of the Russian attack. But that is a failure of his duties as Commander in Chief. And to attack the press for doing its job is to undermine his oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

What gives me hope is my years in newsrooms. Reporters will not be intimidated by these threats. They will only resolve to dig deeper and harder.
-- Dan Rather

 

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