Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful


Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 10. 5 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Will McAvoy's Rant: "America Is NOT the World's Greatest Country"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 25. 3 Replies

Aaron Sorkin has a habit of swinging for the fences when he writes political commentary as entertainment for television.  This was first evinced in the network television series, The West Wing, and…Continue

Tags: The Newsroom, Will McAvoy, Aaron Sorkin

Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Aug 12. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 1, 2018 at 11:30am
"American collapse is a supercollapse, a mega-collapse, a hyper-collapse. It combines all the elements we know of in how nations fall into ruin — and that is a special, striking, and strange thing. Because most nations do not collapse that violently or explosively or combinatorially. For example, Soviet collapse was authoritarian — but not theocratic. German collapse was fascist — but not kleptocratic (contrary to popular belief, the average German grew richer for a time). Afghani collapse was theocratic — but not fascist. And so on. Only American collapse combines all the strands of ruin that we know of to produce the epic, catastrophic spectacle of mega-collapse — like a supervolcano taking out a whole continent erupting."

~Umair Haque
Comment by Loren Miller on July 1, 2018 at 6:27am

We left religion because we rejected the idea of using emotion to determine truth.  You and I have seen this before: the god squad giggles with glee as they prop some random convert up under the banner, "Former atheist finds god."  Yeah, every once in a while, somebody somewhere will step from non-belief to belief, but even a cursory look at religion statistics reveals: this is the exception, not the rule.  And most importantly, it has nothing – zero, zip, nada – NOTHING to do with the evidence.  "Bob is now a Christian" is as relevant to an examination of the facts as the local casino billboard flashing, "Bob just won $10,000 on Wheel of Fortune slots!" [emphasis mine]
-- Seth Andrews, from his podcast, "Holy Hollywood"

I heard the above yesterday, and I thought it made a powerful statement as to WHY we are atheists and what kind of information motivates us to change our minds, especially Seth's first sentence.  Religion depends largely on emotion to achieve conversion.  They have to, because they have no confirmable facts to resort to. Do I value emotion? Yes, but emotion must yield to hard data and testable evidence when making critical decisions about one's life or anything else of importance.

Comment by Patricia on June 30, 2018 at 3:55pm

Well there ya go.

That's one thing I've noticed with the men in my husband's family, they all respect their women, & are not ''the boss''.

Comment by Loren Miller on June 30, 2018 at 3:38pm

Patricia, the one thing I know about Robert Heinlein was that he loved his wife Ginny to absolute pieces and had an enormous amount of respect for her.  For all the misogyny he's accused of in his novels (a great deal of which I think is patent bullshit), his devotion to her is beyond question to me.

Comment by Patricia on June 30, 2018 at 2:40pm

Amazing how some men figured that out long ago.

Comment by Loren Miller on June 30, 2018 at 5:02am

A woman is not property, and husbands who think otherwise are living in a dreamworld.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

Worthy of note: Heinlein penned the above roughly half a century ago ... and Joan, when I saw your quote, I thought of this immediately.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 30, 2018 at 12:58am

"Women are NOT rehabilitation centers for badly raised men!"

Comment by Loren Miller on June 29, 2018 at 6:19am

A God made by man undoubtedly has need of man to make himself known to man.
― Percy Bysshe Shelley

This is an interesting one. Because there is no god but only the allegation of one, god cannot reveal him/her/itself, because something that does not exist cannot act. Therefore it is man who reveals his own creation and CLAIMS that it is not of man.

Comment by Loren Miller on June 28, 2018 at 7:08am

In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point.
-- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

Mostly because neither the Christian religion nor Christian morality have a whole lot to DO with reality!

Comment by Loren Miller on June 27, 2018 at 5:29am

We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.
-- Benjamin Franklin

In a time when both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are striving to divide and conquer us, the above aphorism could not be more important.


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