Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

"Mr. President ... I Don't Work For You"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 31. 13 Replies

There has been a major shot across President Donald Trump's bow and it came, believe it or not, from Fox News.  Specifically, it came from Fox reporter and commentator Neil Cavuto, in response to a…Continue

Tags: Neil Cavuto, Fox News, Donald Trump

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 1. 1 Reply

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

"We need a much broader conversation on what morality of pro-life is"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Apr 28. 3 Replies

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a…Continue

Tags: Planned, Parenthood, contraception, Pro-life,, O.S.B.

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Comment by Loren Miller on April 20, 2019 at 6:10am

... but they will stand up and they will ask, "If there is no god, what stops you from raping and killing everyone you want to rape and kill? What stops you from doing that?" And my answer is always, "You're absolutely right. I have raped and killed every single person I want to rape and kill, and that number is ZERO, you evil motherfucker!!! It's ZERO; it's a goose egg!!! And if your number is a positive integer, sign up for prison! Get the fuck out of our society, because morality is more important than god, and we know that because you stupid motherfuckers say the sentence, 'god is good.' And if morality is not more important than god, you don't get to say that. It doesn't mean anything, unless there is some good that we believe in, some morality, then you can't say, 'god is good,' then you just say, 'god ... whatever he does is okay,' and according to the bible, he kind of is; he does everything bad.
-- Penn Jillette

This is the kind of blunt, unapologetic statement I would expect out of someone like George Carlin, for its unvarnished contempt for the believers' assertion that their deity can do no wrong when, from the point of view of human morality, he's the biggest fuck-up of them all.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 19, 2019 at 7:38pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 19, 2019 at 7:36pm

I am almost a year late in asking, do you mean that Charlie Pierce's quote is trash, or "None dare call it treason?"

Comment by Loren Miller on April 19, 2019 at 5:38am

Objection, evasion, joyous distrust, and love of irony are signs of health; everything absolute belongs to pathology.
-- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

Believers attempt desperately to find some form of absolute in this reality to hang their hats on, and if they can't find one, they make it up out of whole cloth and call it "Yahweh" or "Jesus." Unfortunately for them, there appears to be no more substance to either of those mirages than there is for a left-handed zindlefinger.

BTW, I would add at least one more line-item to Nietzsche's list: SKEPTICISM.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 18, 2019 at 4:37am

I distrust those who know so well what God wants because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
-- Susan B. Anthony

You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do.
-- from Usenet

Gods always behave like the people who make them.
-- Zora Neale Hurston

I thought this was an interesting trio to post: three different ways of expressing the same concept.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 17, 2019 at 12:47pm

Loren, I received and understand your message. Good ideas seem to come in batches. 

Comment by Loren Miller on April 17, 2019 at 5:58am

If you happen to be one of the fretful minority who can do creative work, never force an idea; you'll abort it if you do. Be patient and you'll give birth to it when the time is ripe. Learn to wait.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long

It seems I'm up against this little maxim all the time. Being that my muse seems to sleep 23 hours out of the day, I have to catch her during that 60 minute span when she IS awake. Question becomes: just WHEN in the day is that?

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 16, 2019 at 11:45pm

"if we’re going to solve climate change, we need to get to near-zero emissions on all the things that drive it—agriculture, electricity, manufacturing, transportation, and buildings."

~ Bill Gates 

Comment by Loren Miller on April 16, 2019 at 7:21am

Well put, Bertold.  Believers essentially LIE to themselves repeatedly until they believe the lie – both tragic and dangerous.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 16, 2019 at 5:49am

It's hard to imagine a more extraordinary claim than that some hidden intelligence created a universe of more than a hundred billion galaxies, each containing more than a hundred billion stars, and then waited more than 13.7 billion years until a planet in a remote corner of a single galaxy evolved an atmosphere sufficiently oxygenated to support life, only to then reveal his existence to an assortment of violent tribal groups before disappearing again.
-- Lawrence M. Krauss

Put that way, the utter absurdity of our reality being put together by some deity who demands attention and worship, yet won't show himself is self-evident.

 

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